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It's true that Dr Fleming's word is just that - his word. It's not evidence in a court of law about the chain of custody, so yes, I would have preferred a more in-depth answer. But the SEM photos were of a whole virus-like thing, a spherical ball with spikes coming out all around it, not just a spike protein, as you mentioned in Sam Bailey's photos. Look at it and let me know what you think it is. I agree with you that the mainstream medical establishment is wedded to the germ theory orthodoxy, and they should entertain other ideas. But I don't think there's any evidence linking Dr. Fleming to that battle. He's old enough and wealthy enough to be enjoying his retirement, but he wrote a book about SARS-CoV-2 as a bio weapon program because of the crimes against humanity that were taking place. In his lectures and in his book he discusses the criminal behavior behind the whole pandemic, he doesn't fight the virus vs. no virus battle. His goal is to get one or more of the states attorneys general to bring criminal indictments against the people behind the pandemic. I trust you would agree with that, right? So let's work together on what we agree upon and on the lives and economies and freedoms being destroyed, and put our disagreements on the back burner.

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I am not indicting Dr Fleming, I don't even know him I'm simply replying to the argument that getting a yes from someone is not doing research. And when someone says their opinion if they don't say why then they're being disingenuous or superior like "just take my word for it". We need to be much more astute than that. As for him writing the book, why did he not tackle the complaint that covid has not been isolated? And why is the experimental status of the mRNA vaccine barely mentioned? So let me get this straight - they are using people who believe in a virus to take the bioweapon and the fact this is all experimental is said so rarely it wouldn't be hard to miss that. You are the lab rats. Why is everyone ok with this and arguing about what shape a purported virus has? What point going to a court of law when the law is a fallacy? And what percentage of cases get satisfaction? Tossing a coin would be more fair and a whole lot less expensive. But when it comes to the truth, we all need to talk. Why is nothing mentioned about Antoine Bechamp who was a contemporary of Louis Pasteur whom we hear about all the time and he wasn't a doctor or a scientist but Bechamp was? Hey, can you tell me that?

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I never claimed I did "the research". I just reported what he said - that's all I had the power to do. I never claimed it proved the virus was real. I just said there are knowledgeable scientists out there with other points of view, and that believe the virus is real and claim to have shown that. I never said I knew the truth with certainty, so I never made any false claims or did any incomplete research, or just took anyone's word for it. I just reported what I heard, that's all. I was just saying there are other opinions out there. I am still learning. I still have an open mind. Yes, it's important whether there's a virus or not - fine - I'm all for having that debate and trying to settle it. If the terrain theory is proven correct, then hurray! I'll be the biggest cheerleader - I'm FINE with that! I'm not against that! But right now, today, I think it's more important to try to prosecute the people that unleashed "something" on mankind. Even if there never was any virus or bacteria at all, if it was just based on bogus PCR testing, and it was just a regular flu, it doesn't matter - someone lied to the public about a dangerous disease and wreaked havoc on society, illegally taking away people's constitutional rights and doing immense criminal harm. You may feel legal action is pointless, but I applaud lawyers and scientists like Dr. Fleming and Dr. Vanden Bossche and many others who are trying to do the right thing, whether they succeed or not.

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I have read Dr. Fleming’s book, GVB’s book, Dr. Thomas Cowan’s book (germ theory explanation applied to Covid) Karen Kingston’s substack on the whole pandemic stemming from nanotech synthetic biology, etc. As well as Turtle’s All the Way Down vaccine Science and Myth.

While germ theory is compelling in some regards, I have yet to find an author who can fully explain all aspects of what we observe in every day life with illness backed by proof the other way. For example, small particulate matter (air pollution) may be what is actually causing someone to be ill, but no one is measuring/studying it in a meaningful way that I can find to show how this could be the cause of respiratory illness vs a “virus”. At the end if the day, a lot of germ theory goes down the path of looking at exosomes (cell death debris) and saying that these particles are one and the same as a viral particle. So something caused cell to die, upon death it releases this exosome - germ theory says this is to warn other cells, viral theory says the particle is a virus and then it goes to other cells and causes more death. Both look at a tiny particle but interpret it very differently.

As with everything, it gets way more complicated, a lot of exosome research is fairly new and these small particles can act in many different ways, it’s not black and white at all.

Regardless, at some point, you have to look at a wider point of view and to me, “viral” or not, something small is being observed, a particle with spikes, and people like GVB seem to have a handle on how and why it mutates and changes over time, observing its changes over time. On the germ theory side, it seems just like everlasting cries of “viruses aren’t real.” Maybe they aren’t, but like Shakespeare famously wrote in Romeo and Juliet, “a rose by any other name would smell as sweet” - whether a virus or a circulating toxin that causes cells to release “exosomes” - there is something that can be studied - it is tiny and the structure is well documented...as well as the cascades that happen as it circulates in the body.

Personally, I don’t think it helps in a meaningful way to approach the work of scientists such as GVB as flawed or invalid because of germ theory. Germ theory still has the same hurdles and obstacles to jump over (if not more) to give a full explanation of what caused illness, (is it a germ or particulate matter, nanotech, emf, etc) how individuals and populations respond to the cause of said illness, (immunity and herd immunity) and how to explain that the small particle found in humans (exosome, nanotech, or viral) is changing over time. Virologist will look at this as immune response putting pressure on the virus to mutate. I’m not sure how germ theorists would explain the mutations. Not saying they don’t gave an explanation, but broadly I have only heard them state that the viral tests are all flawed so viruses are fiction. But that for me is a big problem - germ theory could be correct, and likely is in many regards, but on a quantitative level - how does it explain observable mutations in the small particles most call “viruses” that are observable?

For the time being, I prefer to read people like GVB who understand these tiny particles, their effects on the human body, and care less about what they name them until there is compelling evidence to do so.

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What you are doing is defending the ego of the man, (that doesn't mean he has an ego) it's just the thing you're doing, the psychological thing that a lot of women do, I observe) So let's get our mind off that level and call him and everyone to give substance to what they say, let alone advise. There is no need to defend the man himself, I'm talking about why he doesn't mention AT ALL these questions many people have now about viruses. He doesn't even bring them up! Why the total silence? It reminds me so much of the silence over geoengineering or child pedophilia - they both have in common that they say nothing - I mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, about the subject that we're all buzzing about, you know, the people he says he cares about. He is an expert, so why doesn't he even allude to Bechamp who as I stated, was the real scientist of Louis Pasteur's time (LP was the "inventor" of germ theory) Yes there is so much more to the story so why is the same story only ever told? Don't you feel you should be more curious? It's not to downgrade the good doctor - it's to wake him up, like everyone else, we need to talk about everything that isn't talked about. Silence is the safeguard of scoundrels, just remember that. If speaking about obvious discrepancies gets attacked, then you're saying you give experts a pass. It can still be done cordially. But it doesn't have to because you can't be half-pregnant with free speech. What I am miffed about is that they NEVER mention, let alone address, these important holes in their theory. He doesn't address that other substances are added to the fake "isolation" of viruses. Knowing there are other substances in the sample, changes the truth of the results so that it is not "isolation", how could it be? Don't get tied up trying to defend the person's dignity. If we want to live in a world of truth, then every person's dignity must rest on honesty. I cannot understand how these "experts" have not heard of terrain theory or that they mention nothing about it if they have. It is ULTRA relevant. Think how many people could be healthier.

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Just to clarify, as I think you have written it backwards, unless I misunderstood. Germ theory is the one that promotes 'viruses'. Terrain theory is the one that says 'viruses' don't exist.

It is extremely important whether these particles come from outside the body (virus) or inside the body (exosome - signaling particle). Why? Because the concept of 'virus' and 'viral contagion' is being used by our overlords and government to fearmonger and control the populace and inject into the populace whatever they see fit. Without 'viruses' that could no longer occur...

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