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Thanks for your response. I'm checking for information in re doctors you mention.

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You may want to start with Dr Sam Bailey who explains it all very clearly:

https://drsambailey.com/resources/videos/viruses-unplugged/the-truth-about-virus-isolation/

And this explanation about virology being a fraud:

https://rumble.com/vhx3l1-the-final-refutal-of-virology.html?fbclid=IwAR1qO0XAtUSnyLK29RgXb_NlN2lOqyZIJwx97QDjI1p8GpmnvXKISF8fKOA

There is plenty more which you may find too.

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I hope Geert will take notice. It is a huge mind shift to discover this information.

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You seem to assume that's the end of the debate. My own view is that there are pathogens such as bacteria and viruses but their effects depend on the genetics of the host and the 'terrain' the host is in. I found the rumble video confused and in some ways setting up paper tigers to burn down. However you view the effects of sars-cov-2 many many variants have been sequenced. No one says it is easy to isolate (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8007326/) but we don't need perfection to see something is there and begin to see structure. If there are competing hypotheses let's see how their predictions survive the reality of future events. Geert has worked with these ideas for decades and clearly thinks for himself. There must be a lot right in what he says.

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I tend to think viruses ARE bacteria that change form. And they are not something to kill for crying out loud! They are what cleans up dead cells. It is preposterous to kill these organisms but the terrain the medical industry (I say industry and not medical science because there is no science in it) is in needs to change. It needs to take consideration of the environment, nutrition, sanitation, and genetics but that too is a branch of science that has left out a whole slew of layers - genetics are driven by more things than just ancestors - they are driven by thought and emotion as well. $cience is crumbling, it is not science when money is involved. Like Geert, he is biased to give only certain information because everything he has lived for will be turned into an almost zero. Will he even engage in this discussion about terrain theory and covid being unidentified to this day? Or will he going on speaking like there is no dispute that covid exists? Let's see...

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Thank you. I will check these.

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