Slightly off topic: How about going with "Vaccine free" instead of unvaccinated or unvaxxed. This goes along the lines of Gluten free, BPA free, Fat free, Hassle free, Preservative free instead of in the same basket as Unhealthy, Uncaring, Undesirable, Unattractive. It also implies being mentally and physically free. This a summary of a lengthy post (I only have a screen shot of) seems to have been credited to K.G. Wardsmith Warrior.
I agree with you about the power of words and framing, but I am not sure "Vaccine free" is the best phrase. This is because it uses the word "vaccine". The problem is, using this word this buys into the narrative that the jabs are vaccines. I'd rather not use that word at all in referring to the jabs, it is just playing into their framing.
ive been calling them "substandatd painkillers" since february 2021. i guess the phrase for not takimg "substandard painkillers" is "clean" - but that is just me 😊
"This may, once again, prompt public health authorities to follow the erroneous advice of the vaccine industry and key opinion leaders who will undoubtedly recommend to continue the mass vaccination program using updated vaccines that suit the S version of the Omicron variant. "
Dr. Bossche, not "may" but surely they will recommend 250% vaccination coverage once the 100% vaccination coverage fails so misarably and accelerates the evolution of the disease.
It's really a hopeless situation. No matter what happens, the response is the same - "More vaccine".
Nevertheless, A huge thank you to you on behalf of those who appreciate your optimism and honesty in face of raw unimpeded unscientific charlatanism. We cannot give up now.
". GMT FRNT50 for the same samples was 32 for Omicron, a 41-fold decline (Fig 1B). However, the escape was incomplete, with 5 of the participants, all previously infected, showing relatively high neutralization titers with Omicron."
Does that mean that vaccine-mediated immune suppression (post 9 months or so) could somehow be repaired/restored being that Omicron is so mutated from Wuhan strain?
I'm unvaccinated, but just looking out for those who are not.
So the last sentence would seem to imply that “vaccine free” people with fully functional intact innate immune systems will be selected for a bad outcome! Can anyone confirm?
I know!! Literally so much confusion over that last line.. on twitter and also here. This guy is brilliant, but sometimes I feel like shaking him! Geert, we don't all have PHD's and know all the jargon. Maybe just add a one paragraph "virology for dummies" version at the end of each article.
Also, would be REALLY nice if he answered and commented on replies now and then!!
He is actively researching ways to boost the innate immune system. I'm enormously grateful he finds the time to post at all.
It's not the virology; he's not writing in his primary language & he's a scientist 1st, writer 2nd, so occasionally a sentence will have 2 possible interpretations without his realizing it.
As posted below, others with deeper knowledge & greater familiarity with his writing can answer our questions!
Hopefully an intact innate immune system and the FLCCC.net / Zelenko / AAPS type protocols (with the mouth wash and nasal sprays) will sort it out. The Marek’s disease ADE situation doesn’t sound good.
I do not think so. But I have to admit that I cannot follow completely neither Geert nor Dr. Malone. I do not have the required knowledge. Also, I have learnt a lot thanks to them.
By the way, has anyone heard that, being in a pandemic, Science studies in high school should be better? I have not. I only hear that they should teach emotional stuff, cooking and things like that…
They’re mainly focused on blm at this point, but I think a strong grounding in logic, skepticism, media critique, and constitutional freedoms would be more useful than science in terms of a healthy citizenry.
Early aggressive treatment for all vulnerable and elderly, no matter who they are, but especially for the vaccinated who may need extra help. Yes, that makes sense.
Great explanation. So unvaccinated healthy people with intact innate immune systems are likely to fare better against Omricon than vaccinated people with trained immune systems against the wrong strain (Wuhan). So boosters of the old Wuhan strain spike may actually be harmful as those antibodies will outcompete the new innate antibodies. If this is incorrect please let me know.
Great article! It is not over and the vaccine may prevent the vaxxed from acquiring proper natural immunity, leading to endless reinfections.
I just wrote an article that explains that Omicron is NOT mild, and based on early signals, it is twice as virulent as Delta, at least when it comes to the metric of hospitalizations. 2x hospitalizations compared to Delta on apples-to-apples basis.
I'm working hard to understand this, please correct any misapprehensions:
Initial exposure (among vaccinated) may be asymptomatic or very mild, but repeated exposure could make vaccinated get sick more frequently (thus increasing opportunity for bad individual outcomes, viral spread, and viral mutations)? Is there any potential for those who have been vaccinated to achieve complete post-infection immunity at this point or is their best bet just to lie low and take prophylactics until the (now in many places minority) of the population that is unvaccinated achieves herd immunity? Can we still achieve herd protection of the vaccinated if 60%+ of a population is already vaccinated?
I did get the pfizer vaxx in April 2021. I was forced. Will that vaccine wane? and if I do not get the booster, will I be able to rebuild some natural immunity? I have never tested positive for covid. I had a sinus infection last month, recovered after antibiotics for 10 days. It was a stubborn infection but I did get rid of it.
So, what advice can you share for us double vaxxed??
Like Clockwork. Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche Predicts, it's happens.
Just in the previous hour, the first vaccination neutralization study for Omicron is quietly released from South Africa. Nobody who reads Dr. Bossche will be surprised with the result: The vaccine antibodies are almost completely evaded (41x drop in neutralization) but natural infection is not evaded. The recommendation from this Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funded study is exactly what Dr. Bossche predicts: Get infected and boosted.
"Previous infection, followed by vaccination or booster is likely to increase the neutralization level and likely confer protection from severe disease in Omicron infection."
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Full Results->
"We observed that Omicron infected the ACE2-expressing cells in a concentration dependent manner but did not infect the parental H1299 cells, indicating that ACE2 is required for Omicron entry (Fig. 1A). We then tested the ability of plasma from BNT162b2 vaccinated study participants to neutralize Omicron versus ancestral D614G virus in a live virus neutralization assay. We tested 14 plasma samples from 12 participants (Table S1), with 6 having no previous record of SARS-CoV-2 infection nor detectable nucleocapsid antibodies indicative of previous infection. For two of these participants, we used samples from two timepoints. The remaining 6 participants had a record of previous infection in the first SARS-CoV-2 infection wave in South Africa where infection was with ancestral D614G virus (Table S1). Geometric mean titer (GMT) FRNT50 (inverse of the plasma dilution required for 50% reduction in infection foci number) was 1321 for D614G. These samples therefore had very strong neutralization of D614G virus, consistent with sampling soon after vaccination. GMT FRNT50 for the same samples was 32 for Omicron, a 41-fold decline (Fig 1B). However, the escape was incomplete, with 5 of the participants, all previously infected, showing relatively high neutralization titers with Omicron.
Beta variant escape from BNT162b2 in a live virus neutralization assay has been reported to be substantial (3) and our own data confirmed these results (4), with about 3-fold reduction in FRNT50. The results we present here with Omicron show much more extensive escape. However, escape was incomplete in participants with higher FRNT50 due to previous infection. Previous infection, followed by vaccination or booster is likely to increase the neutralization level and likely confer protection from severe disease in Omicron infection."
Link to paper, in googledrive because they don't to publicize this.
"Previous infection, followed by vaccination or booster is likely to increase the neutralization level and likely confer protection from severe disease in Omicron infection."
This recommendation is not supported by any evidence and was not tested in the study. The authors ought to note that having a previous infection should be a "CONTRAINDICATION" for vaccination rather than a recommendation!
Since Pfizer's own double blinded placebo controlled data shows a higher risk of Covid for those who were baseline virologically/serologically positive.
Right from the beginning of the gene therapies the Pharma have said they can “tweak” the ingredients in the potion to combat any new viruses. Of course they can!
Slightly off topic: How about going with "Vaccine free" instead of unvaccinated or unvaxxed. This goes along the lines of Gluten free, BPA free, Fat free, Hassle free, Preservative free instead of in the same basket as Unhealthy, Uncaring, Undesirable, Unattractive. It also implies being mentally and physically free. This a summary of a lengthy post (I only have a screen shot of) seems to have been credited to K.G. Wardsmith Warrior.
Unharmed, unspoiled, unspoilt, unpoisoned, unaffected, untouched, unviolated, unaffected etc
Unconquered, unbowed, undeterred, uncompromised, unafraid
But in most countries "unable to communicate this to their friends". 🙁
3 more pricks for Omicron 🤷🏼♀️ when will they admit they've been duped 😔
I agree with you about the power of words and framing, but I am not sure "Vaccine free" is the best phrase. This is because it uses the word "vaccine". The problem is, using this word this buys into the narrative that the jabs are vaccines. I'd rather not use that word at all in referring to the jabs, it is just playing into their framing.
ive been calling them "substandatd painkillers" since february 2021. i guess the phrase for not takimg "substandard painkillers" is "clean" - but that is just me 😊
I like it!
"This may, once again, prompt public health authorities to follow the erroneous advice of the vaccine industry and key opinion leaders who will undoubtedly recommend to continue the mass vaccination program using updated vaccines that suit the S version of the Omicron variant. "
Dr. Bossche, not "may" but surely they will recommend 250% vaccination coverage once the 100% vaccination coverage fails so misarably and accelerates the evolution of the disease.
It's really a hopeless situation. No matter what happens, the response is the same - "More vaccine".
Nevertheless, A huge thank you to you on behalf of those who appreciate your optimism and honesty in face of raw unimpeded unscientific charlatanism. We cannot give up now.
". GMT FRNT50 for the same samples was 32 for Omicron, a 41-fold decline (Fig 1B). However, the escape was incomplete, with 5 of the participants, all previously infected, showing relatively high neutralization titers with Omicron."
No joke: it literally happened. https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/p/to-all-those-who-believe-omicron/comment/3911639
Does that mean that vaccine-mediated immune suppression (post 9 months or so) could somehow be repaired/restored being that Omicron is so mutated from Wuhan strain?
I'm unvaccinated, but just looking out for those who are not.
thank you, and I am hoping. I am not getting any more jabbbbs
So the last sentence would seem to imply that “vaccine free” people with fully functional intact innate immune systems will be selected for a bad outcome! Can anyone confirm?
No, when he says they (unvaccinated & those with functional innate immunity) will be selected, he means selected for survival.
Phew. Thank you. I was having a hard time deciphering. ...
I know!! Literally so much confusion over that last line.. on twitter and also here. This guy is brilliant, but sometimes I feel like shaking him! Geert, we don't all have PHD's and know all the jargon. Maybe just add a one paragraph "virology for dummies" version at the end of each article.
Also, would be REALLY nice if he answered and commented on replies now and then!!
He is actively researching ways to boost the innate immune system. I'm enormously grateful he finds the time to post at all.
It's not the virology; he's not writing in his primary language & he's a scientist 1st, writer 2nd, so occasionally a sentence will have 2 possible interpretations without his realizing it.
As posted below, others with deeper knowledge & greater familiarity with his writing can answer our questions!
Hopefully an intact innate immune system and the FLCCC.net / Zelenko / AAPS type protocols (with the mouth wash and nasal sprays) will sort it out. The Marek’s disease ADE situation doesn’t sound good.
He’s not saying it will mirror Marek’s disease and select for more virulence but that it will have that effect in the vaxxed due to ADE
Pfizer has a mareks version in a lab somewhere ready to go.
Not likely. To paraphrase Dr. Mike Yeadon, they're not likely to release something that virulent as it would get them too.
Thanks, I was also confused.
I do not think so. But I have to admit that I cannot follow completely neither Geert nor Dr. Malone. I do not have the required knowledge. Also, I have learnt a lot thanks to them.
By the way, has anyone heard that, being in a pandemic, Science studies in high school should be better? I have not. I only hear that they should teach emotional stuff, cooking and things like that…
They’re mainly focused on blm at this point, but I think a strong grounding in logic, skepticism, media critique, and constitutional freedoms would be more useful than science in terms of a healthy citizenry.
More likely to get that by home schooling.
I’m confused as well. The unvaccinated are at risk? What if we already had covid (Delta), what if one hasn’t???
Unvaxxed who are healthy are least at risk is what he’s saying
The opposite
Early aggressive treatment for all vulnerable and elderly, no matter who they are, but especially for the vaccinated who may need extra help. Yes, that makes sense.
Great explanation. So unvaccinated healthy people with intact innate immune systems are likely to fare better against Omricon than vaccinated people with trained immune systems against the wrong strain (Wuhan). So boosters of the old Wuhan strain spike may actually be harmful as those antibodies will outcompete the new innate antibodies. If this is incorrect please let me know.
Great article! It is not over and the vaccine may prevent the vaxxed from acquiring proper natural immunity, leading to endless reinfections.
I just wrote an article that explains that Omicron is NOT mild, and based on early signals, it is twice as virulent as Delta, at least when it comes to the metric of hospitalizations. 2x hospitalizations compared to Delta on apples-to-apples basis.
Omicron may hurt the vaxxed the most.
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/more-bad-news-on-omicron
I'm working hard to understand this, please correct any misapprehensions:
Initial exposure (among vaccinated) may be asymptomatic or very mild, but repeated exposure could make vaccinated get sick more frequently (thus increasing opportunity for bad individual outcomes, viral spread, and viral mutations)? Is there any potential for those who have been vaccinated to achieve complete post-infection immunity at this point or is their best bet just to lie low and take prophylactics until the (now in many places minority) of the population that is unvaccinated achieves herd immunity? Can we still achieve herd protection of the vaccinated if 60%+ of a population is already vaccinated?
I did get the pfizer vaxx in April 2021. I was forced. Will that vaccine wane? and if I do not get the booster, will I be able to rebuild some natural immunity? I have never tested positive for covid. I had a sinus infection last month, recovered after antibiotics for 10 days. It was a stubborn infection but I did get rid of it.
So, what advice can you share for us double vaxxed??
Just keep in good health, try to avoid recalling those vaccinal antibodies by avoiding infection. Hopefully, the body will "forget" about it.
Take resveratrol supplements https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC3482841/
https://drtrozzi.org/2021/12/06/world-council-for-health-omicron-boosters-and-spike-protein-detoxification/
I can only say THANKS!
Geert, are you actually saying all the vaxxed are going to die?
Like Clockwork. Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche Predicts, it's happens.
Just in the previous hour, the first vaccination neutralization study for Omicron is quietly released from South Africa. Nobody who reads Dr. Bossche will be surprised with the result: The vaccine antibodies are almost completely evaded (41x drop in neutralization) but natural infection is not evaded. The recommendation from this Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funded study is exactly what Dr. Bossche predicts: Get infected and boosted.
"Previous infection, followed by vaccination or booster is likely to increase the neutralization level and likely confer protection from severe disease in Omicron infection."
---
Full Results->
"We observed that Omicron infected the ACE2-expressing cells in a concentration dependent manner but did not infect the parental H1299 cells, indicating that ACE2 is required for Omicron entry (Fig. 1A). We then tested the ability of plasma from BNT162b2 vaccinated study participants to neutralize Omicron versus ancestral D614G virus in a live virus neutralization assay. We tested 14 plasma samples from 12 participants (Table S1), with 6 having no previous record of SARS-CoV-2 infection nor detectable nucleocapsid antibodies indicative of previous infection. For two of these participants, we used samples from two timepoints. The remaining 6 participants had a record of previous infection in the first SARS-CoV-2 infection wave in South Africa where infection was with ancestral D614G virus (Table S1). Geometric mean titer (GMT) FRNT50 (inverse of the plasma dilution required for 50% reduction in infection foci number) was 1321 for D614G. These samples therefore had very strong neutralization of D614G virus, consistent with sampling soon after vaccination. GMT FRNT50 for the same samples was 32 for Omicron, a 41-fold decline (Fig 1B). However, the escape was incomplete, with 5 of the participants, all previously infected, showing relatively high neutralization titers with Omicron.
Beta variant escape from BNT162b2 in a live virus neutralization assay has been reported to be substantial (3) and our own data confirmed these results (4), with about 3-fold reduction in FRNT50. The results we present here with Omicron show much more extensive escape. However, escape was incomplete in participants with higher FRNT50 due to previous infection. Previous infection, followed by vaccination or booster is likely to increase the neutralization level and likely confer protection from severe disease in Omicron infection."
Link to paper, in googledrive because they don't to publicize this.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bBO3DLrvVMYYMDg5CKUBVaunyKvOVfhv/view
"Previous infection, followed by vaccination or booster is likely to increase the neutralization level and likely confer protection from severe disease in Omicron infection."
This recommendation is not supported by any evidence and was not tested in the study. The authors ought to note that having a previous infection should be a "CONTRAINDICATION" for vaccination rather than a recommendation!
Since Pfizer's own double blinded placebo controlled data shows a higher risk of Covid for those who were baseline virologically/serologically positive.
Source for claim: https://almostwrong.substack.com/p/what-if-the-negative-105-vaccine
Do you think that vaccinees with breakthrough asymptomatic Omicron infection will develop antibodies to other viral proteins?
So once again Phyzer gene therapy is THE miracle therapy….
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2021/12/08/pfizer-says-its-covid-booster-offers-protection-against-omicron.html?rf
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/pfizer-vaccine-protection-against-omicron-coronavirus-variant-improves-with-three-vaccine-doses/ar-AARBlPA
Right from the beginning of the gene therapies the Pharma have said they can “tweak” the ingredients in the potion to combat any new viruses. Of course they can!
So if a vaccinated person gets Omicron multiple times, will their body eventually acquire better immunity? Or has that ship sailed completely?
well ... shit! :(