No ... I am enrolled in a year long weekend set of courses at a paramilitary camp ... the last few weeks have been dedicated to Accuracy with a Sniper Rifle... we practised putting a bullet in the head of a farmer from 1000 metres... I was pretty good at that -- 8 out of ten hits.
This week we start learning ambush tactics... again we will practise killing farmers...
In October we learn How to Rape the Farmer's Daughters without getting your cock bitten off...
November is all about Cooking Barnyard Animals.
And finally ... in December... we learn how to butcher a farmer and his family and eat them ... once all other sources of food are eaten.
Yes I had to go to a year long weekend camp ... it was called... Doomsday Prepping is Futile... join us and learn how to Kill, Rape and Cook Doomsday Preppers.
Did I mention that my inbred cousins also attended... there are a dozen of us and we are highly trained and ready to unleash upon the Doomsday Preppers... shoot them dead from 1000m... fuck their women... and roast their children in a fire....
My guess is you don't have the means or capabilities to set up a self sufficient area. Most don't. In your post apocalyptic world you would always want to be the last standing with resources compared to those standing in the line for soup eating rats. Infrastructure would be build. Lan lines. Communication lines. This is all very easy, cheap and will be the first Infrastructure build for resistance movements. To think the people wouldn't eventually mobilize is ignorant. You might as well suck start a shotgun if you are going to eat the bugs until the end and not even have the tiniest bit of freedom. Real victim mentality. Real bitch if you ask me.
I think of this as a planetary gain-of-function experiment with billions of human petri dishes working 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to produce a virus that could not and would not have evolved naturally. They have hijacked the process of attaining herd immunity and set the planet on a trajectory toward a mass exinction event.
Yup... no matter whether if it was intentional or accidental, it doesn't much matter now. The deed is done...the poison has been injected into billions of arms.
If the body wouldn't have used it's T-cell trick, would the end have been *exactly* the same to this?
I don't thing Geert realy told us about that.
[I have probably listen 5 times to some of his talks, they are both super scary, and comforting in the same way, knowing that at least one person tells the truth]!
Indeed, our immune system reacted to all the vaccine-breakthrough infections (VBTIs) by mobilizing other immune resources which, although dysregulated, contributed to avoiding/ mitigating acute damage; for example, T cells, but more recently also the enhanced production of inflammatory cytokines, contributed to mitigating viral production and intra-host dissemination. I am stunned at the enormous resilience of the immune system; even if it got profoundly dysregulated by immune refocusing and VBTIs, it still managed to limit the damage (e.g., by turning acute severe disease into chronic disease) using other arms of the immune system (‘other’ means ‘other than the one usually required to control viral infection’, i.e., neutralizing antibodies!). That’s why I got the initial timeline for my predictions wrong. But despite all efforts of the immune system to compensate for vaccine-associated immune dysregulation, the virus continued to challenge it even further. There is a limit, though, to what the immune system can mitigate. It is like a rubber band that you stretch. If you stretch it too much, it loses its elasticity and breaks instead of shrinking back to its original shape!
GVB, a relative of mine has been a telemedicine physician (MD) for about 7 years (long before COVID), and what he tells me scares me.
He says people are now sicker than ever before, with many VBTIs, often manifesting as razor-blade throat, hoarseness, laryngitis, lethargy, or sinus infections for 3 months. TREMENDOUS MUCUS PRODUCTION, facial pain, and post-nasal drip. Not to mention testicular cancer, breast cancer, blood clots, heart disease and heart attacks, to name a few he describes.
He thinks your HIVICRON is definitely getting closer, as vaxxed people are nose-diving FAST. Even the ones with just the first 2 shots. Moderna, especially. THEY REALLY ARE WORSE THAN EVER.
I've spoken with him at length. His telemedicine company won't let him prescribe HYDROXYCHLOROQUIN or IVERMECTIN. The best he can do is prescribe Doxycycline (for its anti-viral effect), Quercetin/Zinc combo, Vit C, and Vit D. He is interested in any other ideas for over-the-counter anti-virals to help people. Maybe NAC with Quercetin and Zinc. Thanks.
Yes, the adaptive potential of the human immune system is truly amazing. But as you say, there is and will be a limit that will be reached. Nothing like this has ever assaulted the immune system before. So in many ways, we are in uncharted territory. We may not know or understand the twists and turns that the human immune system is making on this road to herd immunity, but the ultimate destination is not going to change.
just live a (truly!) healthy life and don’t bother about mild illness (which is currently inevitable for many unvaccinated due to the very high level of infectiousness of circulating variants)
I use the World Council for Health protocol if I suspect infection. Natural anti-virals plus Vitamin D, zinc etc. The usual annoying symptoms of any respiratory infection can affect us of course but I find that I recover fairly quickly when using these supplements. Additionally, just general attention to a healthy lifestyle reduces the likelihood of infection in the first place and assists a fast recovery if any of these pathogens do break through.
Antibody Dependent Enhancement is exactly why prior vaccination attempts for Sars1 & MERS failed. It is a constant threat when vaccinating for RNA viruses. Evidence of its occurrence was clear in their test subjects. Never were they able to overcome this thing . . . except of course magically with the Sars2 vaccine.
Remdesivir made by Gilead Sciences.. via BILL GATES AND JEFFREY EPSTEIN.
SHHHHH.. Medicare reimbursement to hospitals for sars cov2..
THE DRUG THAT DESTROYs your KIDNEYS .. yet Medicare reimbursement to hospitals was signed into law for treatment of sars cov2. No other drug allowed.. hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin never made the list?.
Just good ole Remdesivir..for $7500 per dose plus 20% bonuses.. pay to play?
Hmmm?
7500 dollars to give the drug Remdesivir!
The same drug that kills your kidneys..
And when your lungs fill with fluids..
The next Medicare reimbursement protocol is....DRUM ROLL PLZ..
THE VENTILATOR!!! FOR
40,000 DOLLARS TO HOSPITALS VIA MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT.
ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME?
SO THE DRUG THEY GIVE YOU.. WHILE THEY MAKE AT LEAST 30,000 (7500 X4).
ONLY TO BE PUT ON A 40,0000 DOLLARVENTILATOR W NO FEEDING TUBE ; AND NO AMBULATION OR RESPIRATO THERAPY.. YOU LAY THERE AND DROWN!
WHO WROTE AND APPROVED THIS SCRIPTED PLOY PAY TO PLAY UNDER A GUISE OF .. MEDICINE VIA MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT TO HOSPITALS.
100 K PLUS PER DEAD BODY..
18,500 FOR AUTOPSY PER DR SIGNED CAUSE OF DEATHS. SARS COV2..
The Medicare reimbursement protocol pay to play was a reward system with 100 k per dead body. The incentive was to follow the script and get paid! 100k..
Remdesivir made by Gilead Sciences.. via bill gate and Jeffrey Epstein...
Who wrote this pay to play script for Medicare reimbursement for sars cov2..
seriously..? The author of this sars cov2 Medicare reimbursement to hospitals is the Culprit..
This question alone tattletale S on this entire fool you once shame on them fool me 2x ..
You can't Get FOOLED Again...
I mean millions died in the hospital..and Medicare reimbursement REWARDED AND PROVIDED A SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL INCENTIVE..
LIKE I SAID .
FIND THE AUTHOR OF THIS SCRIPT AND THE APPROVAL METHODS AND THOSE WHO GAVE THAT AUTHORITY..
Could someone (not the virus deniers and trolls!~) rewrite the last sentence to make it clearer, please? I fully understand (at my level) what Geert has been saying for ages but I'm not getting this particular sentence and guess it's just the way he's worded it. I thought - loosely - that Hivicron will achieve herd immunity by getting rid of everyone who can't contribute to it and then the pandemic will abate. So why is he saying here that the virus will come back stronger?
---HIVICRON (HI-ghly VI-rulent Omi-CRON descendant) , however, will shut down immune inflammation and collectively silence immune responses in these populations - a mechanism that will ultimately allow the virus to come back stronger and more virulent.---
Yes, I see you point. What I mean is that by silencing the immune responses in these populations, SC-2 will ultimately come back (in the form of HIVICRON!) stronger and more virulent .
Thank you so much, Geert, for your reply. I'm feeling very honoured!! I'm not a scientist of any sort and having to learn all these topics on the hoof, so to speak, I get confused when the plot appears to change momentarily. Thank you for bearing with us non-scientists!
Here is how Dr. Geert would answer questions regarding the " herd immunity":
Herd immunity cannot be achieved through the mass deployment of non-sterilizing vaccines in the midst of a pandemic. By inducing short-lived, spike-focused antibodies, the mRNA shots have exerted immune pressure without blocking transmission. This has only fueled the selection of ever more infectious and immune-evasive variants.
True herd immunity requires robust, sterilizing immunity across a critical portion of the population — something only natural infection can provide. Instead of allowing this, mass vaccination has disrupted the natural build-up of durable population immunity and driven the virus into an evolutionary arms race.
We will know herd immunity has finally emerged not when vaccination rates are high, but when transmission falls off spontaneously and sustainably, without mandates, boosters, or constant waves of new variants.
However, the price of reaching this point will be staggering: a tsunami of severe disease and deaths in highly vaccinated countries, borne mainly by those whose immune systems have been repeatedly reshaped by the mRNA shots, while the health unvaccinated will be largely spared by this extraordinary event.
Thank you for this summary - I've copied it. I'm just coming to the end of Dr McMillan's long course and have learnt a lot but it's very slow going for someone like me. I can sort of understand something, but then by the next module I've forgotten the previous one. So it's an incredibly slow process of trying to string at least some of it together - but there are increasing moments of clarity!
There is no “HIVICRON,” no evidence of immune shut-down, and ADE has not been seen with COVID vaccines. The vaccinated can still get infected, but they do not get more severe cases of COVID. This is a story, not a signal.
There is no Hivicron YET as there is no evidence YET of a recombinant variant capable of shutting down immune inflammation. However, that’s what the virus will need to do in order to survive. As transmission goes on and multiple variants increasingly combine, it is beyond likely that a recombinant variant that happens to be endowed with such anti-inflammatory properties will emerge. Until that happens, several C-19 vaccinated may, indeed, be spared from severe C-19 disease and long Covid. But things will dramatically change once Hivicron emerges. No need, of course, to believe anything of what I am predicting. But bear in mind that this is exactly why I am saying that society (in highly C-19 vaccinated regions) will be caught off-guard. And for the record: You’re alluding to ADE, which usually stands for Ab-dependent enhancement of DISEASE, whereas what I’ve been talking about is Ab-dependent enhancement of INFECTION, which is a quite different phenomenon!
Mike is fully aware that this is all total nonsense.
Viruses are purely fictional nonsenses.
Mike is one of the pledgers to the Virus Confirmation Fund.
He like the others will be happy to hand Geert £1000 - £56000 in total at the moment.
For a single piece of evidence any of these in silico ‘assembled’ (invented) genomes have ever had anything to do with reality.
Early on it was clear that those clinging to the pseudoscience of virology and contagion at the heart of the ‘medical’ tyranny in the face of the clear facts on the ground were waving a huge red flag above their heads.
Compromised or lacking in due diligence.
It can only be one of the two.
At this stage the latter excuse is waning VERY thin!
Mike is not claiming viruses don’t exist and neither am I. That is pink stuff.
We are both stating the hard fact that viruses are fictional - no evidence has ever turned up to suggest any of these preposterously built genomes have ever had anything to do with the real world.
Geert will not and cannot claim the money we are all offering.
And neither will you or anyone else.
Because none exists.
That Doctors4Covidethics article has been pulled apart so many times.
Only in the same way as he ‘claims unicorns don’t exist’
He has spoken over and over for a LONG time on this point.
If someone was claiming to you that unicorns were the cause of the sudden new childhood heart attacks.
You may say “unicorns don’t exist” instead of the accurate statement “unicorns are fictional.”
There is no difference in the case of viruses .
Saying viruses don’t exist is to make a hypothesis . Saying no evidence has ever turned up for the existence of any of these genomes in the physical world is stating a hard fact.
If someone said to you that unicorns were a major cause of the sudden childhood heart attacks and turbo cancers appearing a new replied that unicorns don’t exist
And someone came back and said you can’t prove a negative .
You’d think them slightly in bad faith .
The bottom line is simple . Viruses are fictional. This is fact.
Or
Claim the £57,000 currently offered by the virus confirmation fund .
What examples do we have from the animal kingdom where the evolution of a virus species led to a more virulent dominant variant, thereby increasing mortality of its obligate host?
Given that we have seen highly virulent species recombine to a less lethal variant, isn't it reasonable to expect that HIVICRON may do the same and thereby not kill off its host as you suggest in a doomsday scenario?
As a veterinarian, what can you say about the consequences of SARS CoV-2 infection for other species, such as Cervidae, Mustelidae and domestic animals, where it has been rampant and a source of blow-back infection to us? Do they not have herd immunity, and what are your veterinarian colleagues saying about the pathology involved?
Given that your thesis presumes relative homogeneity of the herd, and if the strategy had been to have it blow through to elimination with minimal consequences, and you were still working with the WHO, how would you revise public health strategy to account for the findings that this ASLV virus causes significant multi system damage across all ages groups, including cognitive deficit measurable in those with mild infection on a par with HAND criteria seen in late stage HIV, and certainly not evident in other ASLV infections?
Vaccinology, which you have dedicated your career to, has failed to produce a vaccine successful in achieving herd immunity against an ASLV. What was the stumbling block to you leveraging your considerable expertise in the various organisations to address this issue throughout your career?
Unfortunately, the reasoning that viruses would spontaneously evolve to diminished virulence is a myth, primarily spread by virologists who don’t understand immunology. They don’t seem to realize that the mitigation of disease severity they’re observing is due to the growing herd immunity. How many times do I need to repeat that highly C-19 vaccinated populations were unable to develop protective herd immunity? This situation is completely unprecedented. Public health measures and particularly, the mass vaccination campaigns in the midst of a pandemic, turned a natural pandemic into an IMMUNE ESCAPE pandemic in these populations. Did we mass vaccinate animals against SC-2? No! Could animal populations therefore develop herd immunity against SC-2? Yes! Furthermore, I am not aware of any HEALTHY unvaccinated person who developed long Covid or nasty secondary effects following mild infection. Please check whether these cases relate to vaxx’ed or unvaxx’ed individuals (although, I am afraid, you’re unlikely to find that information in the ‘peer-reviewed’ publications/ reports dealing with the alleged site effects of ‘natural’ SC-2 infection; none of these studies seem to be paying attention to the vaccination status of the subjects enrolled). Finally, there are no vaccines that can prevent immune escape when administered to large cohorts of the population in the midst of a pandemic. like there are no vaccines that can protect folks when administered during the incubation time of the disease. We only have prophylactic vaccines, no therapeutic vaccines. To tackle this issue, we would need a fundamentally different approach of immune intervention, one that enables the immune system to kill virus-infected cells before viral progeny is produced and released by the infected host cells. Only NK cell-based vaccines could achieve this goal. However, the vaccine Industry is not interested in this type of vaccines as they can tackle several different pathogenic agents at the same time. It’s a bit of a ‘one-size-fits-all’ approach which Industry detests like the plague….
TGEV that causes 100% lethality in piglets recombined with a respiratory coronavirus to yield TGEV recombinant virus PRCV, that became dominant with less than 10% lethality.
While TGEV is still seen in South China and other parts of SE Asia it is far from being the problem it was.
I don't think that would be classed as spontaneous evolution in response to the immune background encountered but is an attenuation nonetheless.
Given the damage repeat infections have, even for your favored unvaccinated, it is hard to see a way out of this.
“I am not aware of any HEALTHY unvaccinated person who developed long Covid or nasty secondary effects following mild infection.”
There are literally hundreds of thousands of these people. There are studies confirming this. If you are unaware of this you need to read more.
1. Large Israeli Cohort Study (BMJ)
A nationwide cohort study in Israel examined nearly 2 million individuals with mild (non-hospitalised) COVID-19. Compared to uninfected individuals, the unvaccinated who had mild COVID-19 showed significantly elevated risks for several long-COVID symptoms—including loss of smell and taste, cognitive issues, breathing difficulties, weakness, and palpitations—both early (30–180 days) and late (180–360 days) post-infection.
2. Swiss BMJ Study: Two-Year Health Effects
From the Zurich SARS-CoV-2 Cohort, researchers found that more than 1 in 6 unvaccinated individuals (17%) did not return to normal health, and 18% reported COVID-related symptoms up to two years after infection.
3. U.S. Military Cohort—Vaccination & Symptom Persistence
A JAMA Network Open study of nearly 1,800 U.S. military personnel tracked symptom persistence up to 6 months. Unvaccinated individuals had approximately a 39% higher risk of persistent symptoms at 28 days. Even those with mild illness faced elevated long-COVID risks compared to vaccinated peers.
“there are no vaccines that can protect folks when administered during the incubation time of the disease.”
Again, I think you need to read more science. Infections with long incubation periods are successfully managed by giving vaccination AFTER infection but before disease manifests. Such as Hep B and rabies for example. There is evidence that even for shorter incubation illnesses such as measles, giving vaccine within 72 hours of exposure will either prevent or mitigate the illness.
Shrug off reality, if you prefer to, virus deniers. I prefer to survive by rejecting "vaccines" and taking good care of myself.
Their not vaccines.. their mrna bioweapons..reduce population to 500,000,000..
So the word " vaccine " needs to be accurately id notified as a
Bio terrorist threat.
I look forward to when billions are dying ... global supply chains collapse... and everyone left starves...
Are you not preparing by getting livestock and water supplies and filters and weapons?
No ... I am enrolled in a year long weekend set of courses at a paramilitary camp ... the last few weeks have been dedicated to Accuracy with a Sniper Rifle... we practised putting a bullet in the head of a farmer from 1000 metres... I was pretty good at that -- 8 out of ten hits.
This week we start learning ambush tactics... again we will practise killing farmers...
In October we learn How to Rape the Farmer's Daughters without getting your cock bitten off...
November is all about Cooking Barnyard Animals.
And finally ... in December... we learn how to butcher a farmer and his family and eat them ... once all other sources of food are eaten.
You had to go to a camp to learn all that? Didn't have much of a childhood did ya?
Calling a rifle a sniper rifle is hilarious.
Yes I had to go to a year long weekend camp ... it was called... Doomsday Prepping is Futile... join us and learn how to Kill, Rape and Cook Doomsday Preppers.
Did I mention that my inbred cousins also attended... there are a dozen of us and we are highly trained and ready to unleash upon the Doomsday Preppers... shoot them dead from 1000m... fuck their women... and roast their children in a fire....
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/the-utter-futility-of-doomsday-prepping
My guess is you don't have the means or capabilities to set up a self sufficient area. Most don't. In your post apocalyptic world you would always want to be the last standing with resources compared to those standing in the line for soup eating rats. Infrastructure would be build. Lan lines. Communication lines. This is all very easy, cheap and will be the first Infrastructure build for resistance movements. To think the people wouldn't eventually mobilize is ignorant. You might as well suck start a shotgun if you are going to eat the bugs until the end and not even have the tiniest bit of freedom. Real victim mentality. Real bitch if you ask me.
I think of this as a planetary gain-of-function experiment with billions of human petri dishes working 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to produce a virus that could not and would not have evolved naturally. They have hijacked the process of attaining herd immunity and set the planet on a trajectory toward a mass exinction event.
Were definitely an experiment..
The human race.
..
Yup... no matter whether if it was intentional or accidental, it doesn't much matter now. The deed is done...the poison has been injected into billions of arms.
UV 222
Full arsenal
GA GUIDESTONE DEPOPULATION AGENDA REDUCE POPULATION TO 500,000,000..
40 FT HUGE GRANITE MEGA LITHIC CRAVED 10 COMMANDMENTS STYLE MYSTERIOUSLY BUILT IN the
sTate of GA..
WHO BUILT THAT?
WASNT CHEAP..
KLAUS GATES EPSTEIN AND THEIR REPTILIAN FRIENDS?
WEF WHO NEW WORLD ORDER..
BUSHIE STYLE?
WHO KNOWs...
Lol
Accountability then?
I mean mrnA Frankenstein Charlie Manson medicine murdering humans for profits and ?
Becomes way more than... Just
A Deed is Done?
I mean IT NOW BECOMEs:
Dirty DEEDs DONE DIRT CHARLIE MANSON cheap.
I say lock n.load and let's go hunt these REPTILIAN PSYCHOPATHS DOWN;
LIKE THE SICK DEMENTED DIABOLICAL EVIL PIECES OF WHALE DUNG THEY ARE..
THIS CANNOT STAND.
I TOOK AN.OATH IN THE MILITARY..THIS IS BEYOND DEMONIC TREASON MURDER!
Yes, the die has been cast. It cannot be undone. 200 million Americans are considered fully vaccinated. Gerrt Vanden Bosch believes that the death toll will be in the 30 to 40% range. I personally think the number will be much higher. 40% of 200 million equals 80 million deaths. This will mean the end of the world as we know it. We the unvaccinated will be busy with survival as our entire society falls apart. No power, no Internet, no phones and no food will dislodge us from the 21st century and move us into a dystopian world of survival. So finding and punishing who did this will no longer matter. Buy guns and ammo. You are going to need them. https://slaynews.com/news/bill-gates-vaccine-scientist-warns-covid-vaxxed-face-spectacular-wave-mass-death/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&fbclid=IwZnRzaAMrILBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHrZw3LEfCxpfgW2-D0SZOsghIR3PMZfIjJHh1jGasigTjSmkPSmiiUrqv5pz_aem_aOjmaHuXRoHr2hgsa5wJnQ
Friends were at dulce nm
We got emp
Too
Uv 222 helps kill bad
No
Ands
IF's
Or
Butts
Dr Richard Sauder
Writes
Underground bases and tunnels..
I say lets.look underneath us.
Start in Antarctica also.
Shhhhh
Ebes
If the body wouldn't have used it's T-cell trick, would the end have been *exactly* the same to this?
I don't thing Geert realy told us about that.
[I have probably listen 5 times to some of his talks, they are both super scary, and comforting in the same way, knowing that at least one person tells the truth]!
Indeed, our immune system reacted to all the vaccine-breakthrough infections (VBTIs) by mobilizing other immune resources which, although dysregulated, contributed to avoiding/ mitigating acute damage; for example, T cells, but more recently also the enhanced production of inflammatory cytokines, contributed to mitigating viral production and intra-host dissemination. I am stunned at the enormous resilience of the immune system; even if it got profoundly dysregulated by immune refocusing and VBTIs, it still managed to limit the damage (e.g., by turning acute severe disease into chronic disease) using other arms of the immune system (‘other’ means ‘other than the one usually required to control viral infection’, i.e., neutralizing antibodies!). That’s why I got the initial timeline for my predictions wrong. But despite all efforts of the immune system to compensate for vaccine-associated immune dysregulation, the virus continued to challenge it even further. There is a limit, though, to what the immune system can mitigate. It is like a rubber band that you stretch. If you stretch it too much, it loses its elasticity and breaks instead of shrinking back to its original shape!
GVB, a relative of mine has been a telemedicine physician (MD) for about 7 years (long before COVID), and what he tells me scares me.
He says people are now sicker than ever before, with many VBTIs, often manifesting as razor-blade throat, hoarseness, laryngitis, lethargy, or sinus infections for 3 months. TREMENDOUS MUCUS PRODUCTION, facial pain, and post-nasal drip. Not to mention testicular cancer, breast cancer, blood clots, heart disease and heart attacks, to name a few he describes.
He thinks your HIVICRON is definitely getting closer, as vaxxed people are nose-diving FAST. Even the ones with just the first 2 shots. Moderna, especially. THEY REALLY ARE WORSE THAN EVER.
I've spoken with him at length. His telemedicine company won't let him prescribe HYDROXYCHLOROQUIN or IVERMECTIN. The best he can do is prescribe Doxycycline (for its anti-viral effect), Quercetin/Zinc combo, Vit C, and Vit D. He is interested in any other ideas for over-the-counter anti-virals to help people. Maybe NAC with Quercetin and Zinc. Thanks.
Yes, the adaptive potential of the human immune system is truly amazing. But as you say, there is and will be a limit that will be reached. Nothing like this has ever assaulted the immune system before. So in many ways, we are in uncharted territory. We may not know or understand the twists and turns that the human immune system is making on this road to herd immunity, but the ultimate destination is not going to change.
Wow Geert thanks!
I don't mind your timeline gap, it just makes you moore belivable, and noone I know of predicted the right outcome anyway.
Your point was to invite to a honest debate, but noone wanted to participate in that.
Nature in all its glory, until man fucks with it, such lessons cost so much when questions are denied prior to implementation.
Any thoughts as to how to assist our natural immunity, for those of us uninjected?
just live a (truly!) healthy life and don’t bother about mild illness (which is currently inevitable for many unvaccinated due to the very high level of infectiousness of circulating variants)
I use the World Council for Health protocol if I suspect infection. Natural anti-virals plus Vitamin D, zinc etc. The usual annoying symptoms of any respiratory infection can affect us of course but I find that I recover fairly quickly when using these supplements. Additionally, just general attention to a healthy lifestyle reduces the likelihood of infection in the first place and assists a fast recovery if any of these pathogens do break through.
Antibody Dependent Enhancement is exactly why prior vaccination attempts for Sars1 & MERS failed. It is a constant threat when vaccinating for RNA viruses. Evidence of its occurrence was clear in their test subjects. Never were they able to overcome this thing . . . except of course magically with the Sars2 vaccine.
Remdesivir made by Gilead Sciences.. via BILL GATES AND JEFFREY EPSTEIN.
SHHHHH.. Medicare reimbursement to hospitals for sars cov2..
THE DRUG THAT DESTROYs your KIDNEYS .. yet Medicare reimbursement to hospitals was signed into law for treatment of sars cov2. No other drug allowed.. hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin never made the list?.
Just good ole Remdesivir..for $7500 per dose plus 20% bonuses.. pay to play?
Hmmm?
7500 dollars to give the drug Remdesivir!
The same drug that kills your kidneys..
And when your lungs fill with fluids..
The next Medicare reimbursement protocol is....DRUM ROLL PLZ..
THE VENTILATOR!!! FOR
40,000 DOLLARS TO HOSPITALS VIA MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT.
ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME?
SO THE DRUG THEY GIVE YOU.. WHILE THEY MAKE AT LEAST 30,000 (7500 X4).
ONLY TO BE PUT ON A 40,0000 DOLLARVENTILATOR W NO FEEDING TUBE ; AND NO AMBULATION OR RESPIRATO THERAPY.. YOU LAY THERE AND DROWN!
WHO WROTE AND APPROVED THIS SCRIPTED PLOY PAY TO PLAY UNDER A GUISE OF .. MEDICINE VIA MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT TO HOSPITALS.
100 K PLUS PER DEAD BODY..
18,500 FOR AUTOPSY PER DR SIGNED CAUSE OF DEATHS. SARS COV2..
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP.
A GATES EPSTEIN PRODUCTION.
DAMN MAN
My prediction as a lowly nurse is the vaccinated will die, and that is how it will end.
Hospitals killed more people than sars cov2 did.
The Medicare reimbursement protocol pay to play was a reward system with 100 k per dead body. The incentive was to follow the script and get paid! 100k..
Remdesivir made by Gilead Sciences.. via bill gate and Jeffrey Epstein...
Who wrote this pay to play script for Medicare reimbursement for sars cov2..
seriously..? The author of this sars cov2 Medicare reimbursement to hospitals is the Culprit..
This question alone tattletale S on this entire fool you once shame on them fool me 2x ..
You can't Get FOOLED Again...
I mean millions died in the hospital..and Medicare reimbursement REWARDED AND PROVIDED A SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL INCENTIVE..
LIKE I SAID .
FIND THE AUTHOR OF THIS SCRIPT AND THE APPROVAL METHODS AND THOSE WHO GAVE THAT AUTHORITY..
YOULL FIND DR SATAN HIMSELF..
NO NOT DR STANLEY PLOKTIN.. BUT CLOSE
Dr Stanley Ploktin is the GODFATHER OF VACCINES..
HES 86 YRS OLD.
SIT ON 9 PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY BOARDS.
RECIEVEs 14 million a yr! Hes rolling..
The GODFATHER! OH YES SIR..
EXPERT WITNESS
CREATOR OF RUEBELLA VACCINE.
HES THE MAC!
THE GODFATHER..
REQUIRES YOUR CHILD ADHERE AND RECIEVE ALL 75 CHILDHOOD SCHEDULE VACCINES..
YET BIZARRELY..
AT 86..
DURING TESTIMONY IN 2018 DEPOSITION.. UNDER OATH
DR STANLEY PLOKTIN TESTIMONY QUOTED AT 86 YRS .. HES ONLY HAD ONLY 1 VACCINE..
ONLY 1 IN HIS PATHETIC 86 YR EXISTENCE.
YET WANTS UR KID TO GET 74 VACCINES
Could someone (not the virus deniers and trolls!~) rewrite the last sentence to make it clearer, please? I fully understand (at my level) what Geert has been saying for ages but I'm not getting this particular sentence and guess it's just the way he's worded it. I thought - loosely - that Hivicron will achieve herd immunity by getting rid of everyone who can't contribute to it and then the pandemic will abate. So why is he saying here that the virus will come back stronger?
---HIVICRON (HI-ghly VI-rulent Omi-CRON descendant) , however, will shut down immune inflammation and collectively silence immune responses in these populations - a mechanism that will ultimately allow the virus to come back stronger and more virulent.---
Yes, I see you point. What I mean is that by silencing the immune responses in these populations, SC-2 will ultimately come back (in the form of HIVICRON!) stronger and more virulent .
Thank you so much, Geert, for your reply. I'm feeling very honoured!! I'm not a scientist of any sort and having to learn all these topics on the hoof, so to speak, I get confused when the plot appears to change momentarily. Thank you for bearing with us non-scientists!
Thank you for responding Geert ! We are thankful for your sharing your knowledge.
Here is how Dr. Geert would answer questions regarding the " herd immunity":
Herd immunity cannot be achieved through the mass deployment of non-sterilizing vaccines in the midst of a pandemic. By inducing short-lived, spike-focused antibodies, the mRNA shots have exerted immune pressure without blocking transmission. This has only fueled the selection of ever more infectious and immune-evasive variants.
True herd immunity requires robust, sterilizing immunity across a critical portion of the population — something only natural infection can provide. Instead of allowing this, mass vaccination has disrupted the natural build-up of durable population immunity and driven the virus into an evolutionary arms race.
We will know herd immunity has finally emerged not when vaccination rates are high, but when transmission falls off spontaneously and sustainably, without mandates, boosters, or constant waves of new variants.
However, the price of reaching this point will be staggering: a tsunami of severe disease and deaths in highly vaccinated countries, borne mainly by those whose immune systems have been repeatedly reshaped by the mRNA shots, while the health unvaccinated will be largely spared by this extraordinary event.
Thank you for this summary - I've copied it. I'm just coming to the end of Dr McMillan's long course and have learnt a lot but it's very slow going for someone like me. I can sort of understand something, but then by the next module I've forgotten the previous one. So it's an incredibly slow process of trying to string at least some of it together - but there are increasing moments of clarity!
There is no “HIVICRON,” no evidence of immune shut-down, and ADE has not been seen with COVID vaccines. The vaccinated can still get infected, but they do not get more severe cases of COVID. This is a story, not a signal.
There is no Hivicron YET as there is no evidence YET of a recombinant variant capable of shutting down immune inflammation. However, that’s what the virus will need to do in order to survive. As transmission goes on and multiple variants increasingly combine, it is beyond likely that a recombinant variant that happens to be endowed with such anti-inflammatory properties will emerge. Until that happens, several C-19 vaccinated may, indeed, be spared from severe C-19 disease and long Covid. But things will dramatically change once Hivicron emerges. No need, of course, to believe anything of what I am predicting. But bear in mind that this is exactly why I am saying that society (in highly C-19 vaccinated regions) will be caught off-guard. And for the record: You’re alluding to ADE, which usually stands for Ab-dependent enhancement of DISEASE, whereas what I’ve been talking about is Ab-dependent enhancement of INFECTION, which is a quite different phenomenon!
Well said Doc H.
GVB has been reading too many Marvel comics.
….The return of HIVICRON!!!! 😱👽🦹♂️🧟♀️
Oh dear…
Does Dr Mike Yeadon know about this..?
Good...I was hoping someone would point out Dr Yeadon's stance...Thank you ! His view is
gaining ground, which is good...
The number of stacks available on which to comment without payment is something else getting very thin...
Mike is fully aware that this is all total nonsense.
Viruses are purely fictional nonsenses.
Mike is one of the pledgers to the Virus Confirmation Fund.
He like the others will be happy to hand Geert £1000 - £56000 in total at the moment.
For a single piece of evidence any of these in silico ‘assembled’ (invented) genomes have ever had anything to do with reality.
Early on it was clear that those clinging to the pseudoscience of virology and contagion at the heart of the ‘medical’ tyranny in the face of the clear facts on the ground were waving a huge red flag above their heads.
Compromised or lacking in due diligence.
It can only be one of the two.
At this stage the latter excuse is waning VERY thin!
Yeadon is vehemently claiming viruses do not exist.
GVB claims the viruses have caused some sort of immune pandemic.
Their views are incompatible.
Their views are however both incorrect.
Mike is not claiming viruses don’t exist and neither am I. That is pink stuff.
We are both stating the hard fact that viruses are fictional - no evidence has ever turned up to suggest any of these preposterously built genomes have ever had anything to do with the real world.
Geert will not and cannot claim the money we are all offering.
And neither will you or anyone else.
Because none exists.
That Doctors4Covidethics article has been pulled apart so many times.
It was a silly move of Geert to respond with it.
Another detailed article coming.
https://open.substack.com/pub/beyondcertainty/p/no-virus-evidence-is-the-fact-to
Yeadon is certainly claiming viruses do not exist.
Here is a quote from him on 24th August, as just one example.
https://ibb.co/QvfXjhsy
Only in the same way as he ‘claims unicorns don’t exist’
He has spoken over and over for a LONG time on this point.
If someone was claiming to you that unicorns were the cause of the sudden new childhood heart attacks.
You may say “unicorns don’t exist” instead of the accurate statement “unicorns are fictional.”
There is no difference in the case of viruses .
Saying viruses don’t exist is to make a hypothesis . Saying no evidence has ever turned up for the existence of any of these genomes in the physical world is stating a hard fact.
If someone said to you that unicorns were a major cause of the sudden childhood heart attacks and turbo cancers appearing a new replied that unicorns don’t exist
And someone came back and said you can’t prove a negative .
You’d think them slightly in bad faith .
The bottom line is simple . Viruses are fictional. This is fact.
Or
Claim the £57,000 currently offered by the virus confirmation fund .
We are all waiting to pay out …
“When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean“
Humpty Dumpty (AKA Tim West)
Who determines if my evidence is sufficient for you to pay me?
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A few questions Geert concerning your thesis.
What examples do we have from the animal kingdom where the evolution of a virus species led to a more virulent dominant variant, thereby increasing mortality of its obligate host?
Given that we have seen highly virulent species recombine to a less lethal variant, isn't it reasonable to expect that HIVICRON may do the same and thereby not kill off its host as you suggest in a doomsday scenario?
As a veterinarian, what can you say about the consequences of SARS CoV-2 infection for other species, such as Cervidae, Mustelidae and domestic animals, where it has been rampant and a source of blow-back infection to us? Do they not have herd immunity, and what are your veterinarian colleagues saying about the pathology involved?
Given that your thesis presumes relative homogeneity of the herd, and if the strategy had been to have it blow through to elimination with minimal consequences, and you were still working with the WHO, how would you revise public health strategy to account for the findings that this ASLV virus causes significant multi system damage across all ages groups, including cognitive deficit measurable in those with mild infection on a par with HAND criteria seen in late stage HIV, and certainly not evident in other ASLV infections?
Vaccinology, which you have dedicated your career to, has failed to produce a vaccine successful in achieving herd immunity against an ASLV. What was the stumbling block to you leveraging your considerable expertise in the various organisations to address this issue throughout your career?
Unfortunately, the reasoning that viruses would spontaneously evolve to diminished virulence is a myth, primarily spread by virologists who don’t understand immunology. They don’t seem to realize that the mitigation of disease severity they’re observing is due to the growing herd immunity. How many times do I need to repeat that highly C-19 vaccinated populations were unable to develop protective herd immunity? This situation is completely unprecedented. Public health measures and particularly, the mass vaccination campaigns in the midst of a pandemic, turned a natural pandemic into an IMMUNE ESCAPE pandemic in these populations. Did we mass vaccinate animals against SC-2? No! Could animal populations therefore develop herd immunity against SC-2? Yes! Furthermore, I am not aware of any HEALTHY unvaccinated person who developed long Covid or nasty secondary effects following mild infection. Please check whether these cases relate to vaxx’ed or unvaxx’ed individuals (although, I am afraid, you’re unlikely to find that information in the ‘peer-reviewed’ publications/ reports dealing with the alleged site effects of ‘natural’ SC-2 infection; none of these studies seem to be paying attention to the vaccination status of the subjects enrolled). Finally, there are no vaccines that can prevent immune escape when administered to large cohorts of the population in the midst of a pandemic. like there are no vaccines that can protect folks when administered during the incubation time of the disease. We only have prophylactic vaccines, no therapeutic vaccines. To tackle this issue, we would need a fundamentally different approach of immune intervention, one that enables the immune system to kill virus-infected cells before viral progeny is produced and released by the infected host cells. Only NK cell-based vaccines could achieve this goal. However, the vaccine Industry is not interested in this type of vaccines as they can tackle several different pathogenic agents at the same time. It’s a bit of a ‘one-size-fits-all’ approach which Industry detests like the plague….
TGEV that causes 100% lethality in piglets recombined with a respiratory coronavirus to yield TGEV recombinant virus PRCV, that became dominant with less than 10% lethality.
While TGEV is still seen in South China and other parts of SE Asia it is far from being the problem it was.
I don't think that would be classed as spontaneous evolution in response to the immune background encountered but is an attenuation nonetheless.
Given the damage repeat infections have, even for your favored unvaccinated, it is hard to see a way out of this.
“I am not aware of any HEALTHY unvaccinated person who developed long Covid or nasty secondary effects following mild infection.”
There are literally hundreds of thousands of these people. There are studies confirming this. If you are unaware of this you need to read more.
1. Large Israeli Cohort Study (BMJ)
A nationwide cohort study in Israel examined nearly 2 million individuals with mild (non-hospitalised) COVID-19. Compared to uninfected individuals, the unvaccinated who had mild COVID-19 showed significantly elevated risks for several long-COVID symptoms—including loss of smell and taste, cognitive issues, breathing difficulties, weakness, and palpitations—both early (30–180 days) and late (180–360 days) post-infection.
2. Swiss BMJ Study: Two-Year Health Effects
From the Zurich SARS-CoV-2 Cohort, researchers found that more than 1 in 6 unvaccinated individuals (17%) did not return to normal health, and 18% reported COVID-related symptoms up to two years after infection.
3. U.S. Military Cohort—Vaccination & Symptom Persistence
A JAMA Network Open study of nearly 1,800 U.S. military personnel tracked symptom persistence up to 6 months. Unvaccinated individuals had approximately a 39% higher risk of persistent symptoms at 28 days. Even those with mild illness faced elevated long-COVID risks compared to vaccinated peers.
“there are no vaccines that can protect folks when administered during the incubation time of the disease.”
Again, I think you need to read more science. Infections with long incubation periods are successfully managed by giving vaccination AFTER infection but before disease manifests. Such as Hep B and rabies for example. There is evidence that even for shorter incubation illnesses such as measles, giving vaccine within 72 hours of exposure will either prevent or mitigate the illness.
Gerry, you have convincingly argued that lightning will strike. This is a profound insight for future policy decisions.
For the current pandemic, however, an ongoing weather report would be helpful… or a clear statement that it will occur suddenly, without warning.
Thanks for Sharing this timely information Dr Bossche