Are there any signs that a more virulent variant has emerged?
From my limited viewpoint, my jabbed friends and acquaintances are getting sick often and the variant they have is taking them down for a week or more.
One question I have is, how would a more virulent variant outcompete less virulent variants if both are equally infectious?
I am not aware of the emergence of a more virulent variant.
I think the reason your friends and acquaintances who took the C19 vaccines are getting sick more frequently is because those vaxxes have messed with their immune systems.
The question in your third paragraph is a sound one and I do not have an answer. I know Geert has repeatedly said that a more virulent variant will arise but so far all of his time predictions have failed. The C19 virus changes so frequently that I would think one of these days a more virulent variant is likely to arise.
Your name is unique. What nationality are you? I find names and nationalities intriguing.
Thanks for the reply. I agree that it won't necessarily be a more virulent variant that takes the jabbed down. It will be their immune system failure against all corona variants or possibly any pathogen. It seems Dr. Zelenko hit the nail on the head when he labeled the condition "VAIDS". My question is, how long will this take? It will probably be a normal distribution of cases, unless a more virulent variant emerges.
I believe Geert alluded to this failure of the immune system as the driver of increased mortality. If this is the case, then perhaps even a slightly more virulent variant of any illness will be the end of a large number if the trusting souls. I knew better than to trust big pharma in thus huge scam. I knew it was a huge fraud when I read the two month VRBAC report on the Pfizer clinical trial. I recognized it was a fraudulent study by design.
I used to be the lab information systems manager in big pharma research for most if the 90s. I escaped and became a free lance carpenter. Now I'm mostly retired on a remote piece of land, on a mountain in vt. I live in a small off grid house and have been building a small permaculture farm on my 13 acres. My real name is Karl Rosengrant. I think its dutch originally, but my family has been in the US since the second wave of pilgrims.
Because of the high error rate of single strand RNA replication the myth of more virulent strains is biologically impossible. All of virology is based on DNA clones grown in bacteria from PCR sequence consensus that produces vats of RNA virus at purity rates impossible in the natural world. These clones can be a direct threat weapon but they cannot pandemic & populations will have prior immunity to the most conserved proteins as we saw w Diamond Princess Cruise ship population from the outset.
Jay Couey is the best teacher of the biology that has been distorted to push the spectacular lies by MIC w its Gates NGOs and weaponized piles of money. Scan the titles it's all fab but my favorites are w Mike Yeadon or Wolfgang Wodart and for mRNA transfection related immune disaster the critique of Pieter Cullis father of LNP tech.
Military Industrial Complex.. You understood perfectly. The whole pandemic threat is a head fake & idea that any RNA molecule can originate in a single point & circle the globe w fidelity is nonsense only lab made clones have the same sequence from host to host.
In the natural world passing from one mammal to another the RNA sequence changes with each host. Mono-cultures do not exist in nature not even identical twins have identical genes. Because of replication errors most RNA cannot infect or reproduce it's useless viral fragments that a PCR might detect if they test for the proteins most conserved across all coronavirus which takes us back to seasonal cold/flu renamed Covide-19.. The only thing mutations can do is get weaker... that said locally clones can be sprayed to infect perhaps hundreds or dumped in sewers to have signals that are identical.
Finding identical sequences is a red flag for fraud. Identical is only a one time man made dose. Once it is passed along Mother Nature's rules apply. Clones are made in the same vats used to make mRNA transfections & dangerous only w direct exposure to a purified concentration impossible by transmission. To imagine RNA viral particles evolve to be more potent is like imagining a river will build not erode the shoreline. Never happens but invisible threat, priceless.
"The whole pandemic threat is a head fake & idea that any RNA molecule can originate in a single point & circle the globe w fidelity is nonsense only lab made clones have the same sequence from host to host."
So, the whole 'COVID pandemic' of 2020 before the vaccines was a complete fake? What was causing all the people to get sick? Are you saying there was no sickness or pandemic, just nefarious forces at play?
Pretty much fake in terms of "novel pathogen w no prior immunity possible" based on PCR testing for proteins that all coronavirus have total psyop.. that plus denial of antibiotics causing epic pneumonia deaths & financial incentives to call every death "with Covid" so we don't know if the PCR were rolled out in 2017 or 2018 or 2019 we may have seen the same signals that nobody looked for prior to 2020. It is possible some local infections with high fidelity clones may have caused some illness but RNA cannot make a pandemic & asymptomatic carrier is what we formerly called healthy.
Whats the difference between a "cloned" virus made in a laboratory setting, and regular replication of the virus using RNA dependant ribosomes in the infected cell? Whenever a RNA is replicated with ribosomes inside the cell those ribosomes will not always create perfect copies. Also that ribosome that copies a viral RNA doesn't come from the host cell. Its usually the first protein made. The other machinery of the host cell is used however to make the proteins of the virus and assemble the virus structure.
Is there a different chemical process involved in this cloning you speak of? Even in the lab the same RNA ribosomal machinery is used to make copies of the virus regardless of the host cell type.
So anyway, hope you can help clarify my confusion on this. Thanks.
Thanks for the reply. I have read about both processes used to make the modified RNA for the shots. (It's modified because the Uradines in the RNA were replaced with a non natural version called methyl pseudo uradine)
Process one used a PCR method but since this method works only in small batches they switched to a different process for the manufacturing of the "vaccines" for the larger public.
This process 2 uses strains of ecoli to make large quantities of the mRNA used in the shots. Embedded in the plasmid DNA (circular DNA) are the genetic code for a lot of proteins and the mRNA of the infamous C19 spike protein. They also put in the genetic code for a protein that makes the ecoli resistant to antibiotics. That way only the ecoli with the wanted plasmid DNA for the spike will survive when antibiotics are added to the brew.
So the regular cellular machinery in ecoli is what makes the zillions of copies of the RNA inside their cytoplasm, (inside the cell).
Many many errors do occur in the genome of the spike happen in this process.
Kevin McKernan and other geneticists have tested many vials of the gene based products and they found a lot of DNA fragments and other impurities. This tells me that there was is probably very little quality control going on for one thing.
It also tells me that whoever got the shot got a toxic brew of all kinds of DNA and RNA strands lefts over.
One point I wanted to make in regards to DNA replication. It's very hard to do in a test tube, because of all the machinery of the cell used to correct errors in the copy of the DNA are not present. So although some errors do occur in cellular DNA replication, lots more occur in vitro.
Some of the question parts is way past my ability to answer but Jay Couey is fab about answering questions in the livestream chats if you want to make a free account.
Here's my best shot at the part I do know...
"Whats the difference between a "cloned" virus made in a laboratory setting, and regular replication of the virus using RNA dependant ribosomes in the infected cell?"
Best example is from Jay.. RNA is like the old mix tapes and every time you make another copy the quality goes down. DNA clones grown in bacteria are like CDs that make perfect copies every time. Like raw uranium ore in the ground to highly enriched weapons grade.
Wild RNA is so short lived scientists can't even get a sample to grow they can only use PCR to CRISPR together segments & use bacteria to make DNA copies then some che3mical wash to break the DNA into separate RNA strands. Clones make a million copies perfectly wild RNA makes a million useless partial sequences & maybe a pair of copies close enough to replicate.
"Is there a different chemical process involved in this cloning you speak of? Even in the lab the same RNA ribosomal machinery is used to make copies of the virus regardless of the host cell type."
Jay was research faculty & teaching at U Pittsburgh School of Medicine until his views especially w vocal objection to mRNA transfection a bench tool he used in research got him uninvited... he talks about all these things.. poke around the study halls or archive titles or drop into a livestream & ask in a chat :~) https://www.twitch.tv/gigaohmbiological
What I find problematic with Geert's perspective is that we know that as viruses mutate, they generally mutate towards less and less deadly variants. That's because viruses are also fighting for survival, so killing the host doesn't work well for symbiotic survival and spreading. More highly infectious yet less pathogenic fits that bill. This is the accepted wisdom in this area, which of course MUST be challenged like everything else. That's the scientific method.
Now, I know we are, essentially, dealing with "Molecular roulette" and that a highly pathogenic strain MIGHT emerge randomly. But that isn't the usual trajectory.
So how does Geert reconcile the above apparent inconsistency? or perhaps what he means, and which is IMHO far more likely, that the VACCINATED population, as a result of OAS/ADE/Class Switching IgG etc will be unable to mount an effective immune response against ANY new unfamiliar organisms - SC2 variants, other viruses, other organisms (bacteria, fungi etc)?
If the latter is the case, then we don't need newer more pathogenic variants to induce absolute mayhem?
Or are there other examples of ageing pandemics where in the final stages, a new highly pathogenic variant has emerged?
Asking only because I'm confused and would like to understand better.
I believe Geert has consistently challenged the argument that viruses are 'sentient' entities that can reason that I better not kill my host so I should become less pathogenic. Geert argues that the reason variants tend to become less pathogenic is due to our immune response that, ordinarily, vigilantly protects us and forcing the virus to chart a less pathogenic path. He adds that without a proper functioning immune response all bets are off as to whether variants will become less pathogenic.
As to whether vacinees doom will come from a novel hypermutated variant or from a wrecked immune system, Geert has straddled the fence here and has argued both. Yet, with his PNNabs holding up so well in protecting vaccinees from severe disease, he seems to be favouring a hypermutated variant overcoming the PNNabs and bringing the doom.
I am wondering, too. The jabbed people I know are constantly sick for really long periods of time these days. Some have developed "walking pneumonia," some now have asthma for the first time in their lives, etc. My one friend has a cough that won't go away (it's been two months now). Is this how it plays out? After two rounds of antibiotics my one friend can now breathe, but I'm sure taking the antibiotics will now cause other issues (she already has a yeast infection that developed). Is it just going to be this slow burn of people who get sick and eventually have an immune system that won't protect them anymore and they die from something that could never be traced to the vax?
Thanks for sharing this article. It’s very informative and written in a way that I can understand it. It’s what many doctors have been saying, but it’s in plain English.
"People are now deploying IgG4 antibodies that are poorly suited for neutralizing viral particles, but worst of all, don’t tell your T cells and your NK cells to kill infected cells!"
This is the message that needs to get out to those who keep getting jabbed. They are killing their immune systems and now they wonder why they keep getting sick or can’t shake their illnesses. This information has been known for about a year, but it’s not getting out.
Are there any signs that a more virulent variant has emerged?
From my limited viewpoint, my jabbed friends and acquaintances are getting sick often and the variant they have is taking them down for a week or more.
One question I have is, how would a more virulent variant outcompete less virulent variants if both are equally infectious?
I am not aware of the emergence of a more virulent variant.
I think the reason your friends and acquaintances who took the C19 vaccines are getting sick more frequently is because those vaxxes have messed with their immune systems.
The question in your third paragraph is a sound one and I do not have an answer. I know Geert has repeatedly said that a more virulent variant will arise but so far all of his time predictions have failed. The C19 virus changes so frequently that I would think one of these days a more virulent variant is likely to arise.
Your name is unique. What nationality are you? I find names and nationalities intriguing.
Thanks for the reply. I agree that it won't necessarily be a more virulent variant that takes the jabbed down. It will be their immune system failure against all corona variants or possibly any pathogen. It seems Dr. Zelenko hit the nail on the head when he labeled the condition "VAIDS". My question is, how long will this take? It will probably be a normal distribution of cases, unless a more virulent variant emerges.
I believe Geert alluded to this failure of the immune system as the driver of increased mortality. If this is the case, then perhaps even a slightly more virulent variant of any illness will be the end of a large number if the trusting souls. I knew better than to trust big pharma in thus huge scam. I knew it was a huge fraud when I read the two month VRBAC report on the Pfizer clinical trial. I recognized it was a fraudulent study by design.
I used to be the lab information systems manager in big pharma research for most if the 90s. I escaped and became a free lance carpenter. Now I'm mostly retired on a remote piece of land, on a mountain in vt. I live in a small off grid house and have been building a small permaculture farm on my 13 acres. My real name is Karl Rosengrant. I think its dutch originally, but my family has been in the US since the second wave of pilgrims.
Because of the high error rate of single strand RNA replication the myth of more virulent strains is biologically impossible. All of virology is based on DNA clones grown in bacteria from PCR sequence consensus that produces vats of RNA virus at purity rates impossible in the natural world. These clones can be a direct threat weapon but they cannot pandemic & populations will have prior immunity to the most conserved proteins as we saw w Diamond Princess Cruise ship population from the outset.
Jay Couey is the best teacher of the biology that has been distorted to push the spectacular lies by MIC w its Gates NGOs and weaponized piles of money. Scan the titles it's all fab but my favorites are w Mike Yeadon or Wolfgang Wodart and for mRNA transfection related immune disaster the critique of Pieter Cullis father of LNP tech.
https://rumble.com/c/GigaohmBiologicalArchive
Are you saying that it is "impossible" for the C19 virus to become more virulent or am I misunderstanding you?
What does MIC stand for?
Military Industrial Complex.. You understood perfectly. The whole pandemic threat is a head fake & idea that any RNA molecule can originate in a single point & circle the globe w fidelity is nonsense only lab made clones have the same sequence from host to host.
In the natural world passing from one mammal to another the RNA sequence changes with each host. Mono-cultures do not exist in nature not even identical twins have identical genes. Because of replication errors most RNA cannot infect or reproduce it's useless viral fragments that a PCR might detect if they test for the proteins most conserved across all coronavirus which takes us back to seasonal cold/flu renamed Covide-19.. The only thing mutations can do is get weaker... that said locally clones can be sprayed to infect perhaps hundreds or dumped in sewers to have signals that are identical.
Finding identical sequences is a red flag for fraud. Identical is only a one time man made dose. Once it is passed along Mother Nature's rules apply. Clones are made in the same vats used to make mRNA transfections & dangerous only w direct exposure to a purified concentration impossible by transmission. To imagine RNA viral particles evolve to be more potent is like imagining a river will build not erode the shoreline. Never happens but invisible threat, priceless.
"The whole pandemic threat is a head fake & idea that any RNA molecule can originate in a single point & circle the globe w fidelity is nonsense only lab made clones have the same sequence from host to host."
So, the whole 'COVID pandemic' of 2020 before the vaccines was a complete fake? What was causing all the people to get sick? Are you saying there was no sickness or pandemic, just nefarious forces at play?
Pretty much fake in terms of "novel pathogen w no prior immunity possible" based on PCR testing for proteins that all coronavirus have total psyop.. that plus denial of antibiotics causing epic pneumonia deaths & financial incentives to call every death "with Covid" so we don't know if the PCR were rolled out in 2017 or 2018 or 2019 we may have seen the same signals that nobody looked for prior to 2020. It is possible some local infections with high fidelity clones may have caused some illness but RNA cannot make a pandemic & asymptomatic carrier is what we formerly called healthy.
Maybe you can clarify something for me.
Whats the difference between a "cloned" virus made in a laboratory setting, and regular replication of the virus using RNA dependant ribosomes in the infected cell? Whenever a RNA is replicated with ribosomes inside the cell those ribosomes will not always create perfect copies. Also that ribosome that copies a viral RNA doesn't come from the host cell. Its usually the first protein made. The other machinery of the host cell is used however to make the proteins of the virus and assemble the virus structure.
Is there a different chemical process involved in this cloning you speak of? Even in the lab the same RNA ribosomal machinery is used to make copies of the virus regardless of the host cell type.
So anyway, hope you can help clarify my confusion on this. Thanks.
Thanks for the reply. I have read about both processes used to make the modified RNA for the shots. (It's modified because the Uradines in the RNA were replaced with a non natural version called methyl pseudo uradine)
Process one used a PCR method but since this method works only in small batches they switched to a different process for the manufacturing of the "vaccines" for the larger public.
This process 2 uses strains of ecoli to make large quantities of the mRNA used in the shots. Embedded in the plasmid DNA (circular DNA) are the genetic code for a lot of proteins and the mRNA of the infamous C19 spike protein. They also put in the genetic code for a protein that makes the ecoli resistant to antibiotics. That way only the ecoli with the wanted plasmid DNA for the spike will survive when antibiotics are added to the brew.
So the regular cellular machinery in ecoli is what makes the zillions of copies of the RNA inside their cytoplasm, (inside the cell).
Many many errors do occur in the genome of the spike happen in this process.
Kevin McKernan and other geneticists have tested many vials of the gene based products and they found a lot of DNA fragments and other impurities. This tells me that there was is probably very little quality control going on for one thing.
It also tells me that whoever got the shot got a toxic brew of all kinds of DNA and RNA strands lefts over.
One point I wanted to make in regards to DNA replication. It's very hard to do in a test tube, because of all the machinery of the cell used to correct errors in the copy of the DNA are not present. So although some errors do occur in cellular DNA replication, lots more occur in vitro.
Some of the question parts is way past my ability to answer but Jay Couey is fab about answering questions in the livestream chats if you want to make a free account.
Here's my best shot at the part I do know...
"Whats the difference between a "cloned" virus made in a laboratory setting, and regular replication of the virus using RNA dependant ribosomes in the infected cell?"
Best example is from Jay.. RNA is like the old mix tapes and every time you make another copy the quality goes down. DNA clones grown in bacteria are like CDs that make perfect copies every time. Like raw uranium ore in the ground to highly enriched weapons grade.
Wild RNA is so short lived scientists can't even get a sample to grow they can only use PCR to CRISPR together segments & use bacteria to make DNA copies then some che3mical wash to break the DNA into separate RNA strands. Clones make a million copies perfectly wild RNA makes a million useless partial sequences & maybe a pair of copies close enough to replicate.
"Is there a different chemical process involved in this cloning you speak of? Even in the lab the same RNA ribosomal machinery is used to make copies of the virus regardless of the host cell type."
Jay was research faculty & teaching at U Pittsburgh School of Medicine until his views especially w vocal objection to mRNA transfection a bench tool he used in research got him uninvited... he talks about all these things.. poke around the study halls or archive titles or drop into a livestream & ask in a chat :~) https://www.twitch.tv/gigaohmbiological
For a few days now, I've been wondering whether we're off the hook.
The emergence of a virulent variant would certainly be noticed by collapsing hospitals.
What I find problematic with Geert's perspective is that we know that as viruses mutate, they generally mutate towards less and less deadly variants. That's because viruses are also fighting for survival, so killing the host doesn't work well for symbiotic survival and spreading. More highly infectious yet less pathogenic fits that bill. This is the accepted wisdom in this area, which of course MUST be challenged like everything else. That's the scientific method.
Now, I know we are, essentially, dealing with "Molecular roulette" and that a highly pathogenic strain MIGHT emerge randomly. But that isn't the usual trajectory.
So how does Geert reconcile the above apparent inconsistency? or perhaps what he means, and which is IMHO far more likely, that the VACCINATED population, as a result of OAS/ADE/Class Switching IgG etc will be unable to mount an effective immune response against ANY new unfamiliar organisms - SC2 variants, other viruses, other organisms (bacteria, fungi etc)?
If the latter is the case, then we don't need newer more pathogenic variants to induce absolute mayhem?
Or are there other examples of ageing pandemics where in the final stages, a new highly pathogenic variant has emerged?
Asking only because I'm confused and would like to understand better.
I believe Geert has consistently challenged the argument that viruses are 'sentient' entities that can reason that I better not kill my host so I should become less pathogenic. Geert argues that the reason variants tend to become less pathogenic is due to our immune response that, ordinarily, vigilantly protects us and forcing the virus to chart a less pathogenic path. He adds that without a proper functioning immune response all bets are off as to whether variants will become less pathogenic.
As to whether vacinees doom will come from a novel hypermutated variant or from a wrecked immune system, Geert has straddled the fence here and has argued both. Yet, with his PNNabs holding up so well in protecting vaccinees from severe disease, he seems to be favouring a hypermutated variant overcoming the PNNabs and bringing the doom.
I am wondering, too. The jabbed people I know are constantly sick for really long periods of time these days. Some have developed "walking pneumonia," some now have asthma for the first time in their lives, etc. My one friend has a cough that won't go away (it's been two months now). Is this how it plays out? After two rounds of antibiotics my one friend can now breathe, but I'm sure taking the antibiotics will now cause other issues (she already has a yeast infection that developed). Is it just going to be this slow burn of people who get sick and eventually have an immune system that won't protect them anymore and they die from something that could never be traced to the vax?
Thanks for sharing this article. It’s very informative and written in a way that I can understand it. It’s what many doctors have been saying, but it’s in plain English.
"People are now deploying IgG4 antibodies that are poorly suited for neutralizing viral particles, but worst of all, don’t tell your T cells and your NK cells to kill infected cells!"
This is the message that needs to get out to those who keep getting jabbed. They are killing their immune systems and now they wonder why they keep getting sick or can’t shake their illnesses. This information has been known for about a year, but it’s not getting out.
Thank you! I will have a read! The amount of people around me and on FB reporting their lingering sicknesses is absolutely uncanny.
The abnormal antibody response persists
https://www.rintrah.nl/the-abnormal-antibody-response-persists/
Tiny, unreadable type, and no way to enlarge it.
Do you have reader view on your web browser? Mine is located in the link area and when employed it makes the print larger. See if that helps.
Any update on covid guys? Sequence update? Is it mutating fast?