More on: www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org Discussed articles - ‘Omicron: The calm before the tsunami?’ - ‘Continued mass vaccination will only push the evolutionary capacity of SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein beyond the Omicron version’ Geert: Dear John,
no more vaxxines for me. I received the pfizer back in the Spring, and now I am done. I am doing everything in my power to reverse the effects of the vaxx and make myself strong.
Thank you Doctor so much, thank you dearly for your information, and easy explanation. These explanations are so good, I can share them with my non-medical friends and family.
Still as clear as mud to me. In Marek's disease it's literally the UNvaccinated chickens that don't stand a chance, and die, yet Geert has seemed to imply that you're better off unvaccinated. What does he mean when he says "ADE in vaccinees will provide the virus with exceptional virulence and make it resemble Marek in unvaccinated"
There seem to be two schools of thought in the anti-covid-vax scientists:
1. There is Geert Vanden Bossche who is warning us about vax-caused immune pressure and more infectious variants.
2. There are doctors for covid ethics with Michael Yeadon saying "don't worry about variants because T-cell immunity is broad, long-lived and protective". But most importantly, there is Sucharit Bhakdi saying that the first line of immune response is that of the mucosal immunity in the upper respiratory tract and there aren't vaccinal IgG Abs there - only secretory IgA (https://doctors4covidethics.org/immunology-101-why-intramuscular-covid-19-vaccination-must-fail/). If this is the innate immune response, then isn't that a conflict with the statement that vaccinal IgG will outcompete the innate Abs and prevent training of the innate immune system? I mean if vaccinal IgG do not play a role in the first innate immune response as they just aren't there.
Thank you Geert. Your words are always appreciated.....though they really 'hurt' my little grey cells.! :)
I just also wanted to say, after 40 years of having a chronic cough, I have found that taking a small teaspoon of Bi-carb of soda in a cup of warm water of great benefit. It is an old wive's tale...I know....with no scientific basis, but it sure does work at soothing a cough. PS. It won't fix covid, but if any of your readers have a little success with it, my grandmother would be pleased. :)
Geert do think mass vaccination of the children will finally push us over the edge ?
At this point most scientists are welded on to their position & after everything they have said there is no chance they will walk back on their claims.
Germany is looking at booster 4 already.
What you say seems to make the most sense in my mind & signs are pointing to you being correct but everything is still theory at this stage. Is there a certain country we should watch for the signals, like Israel who are ahead in terms of vaccination timeline ?
Do you have information on the types of antibodies that exert the suppression of the innate antibodies that impact on protection from infection (ie, via competitive binding)? Usually these might be considered to be IgG but given the location of infection in the upper respiratory tract is it more likely that they're IgA? If they are, what is the impact of the rapid IgA antibody waning seen with the coronavirus vaccines on the risks inherent with innate immune suppression? I suppose the question might be phrased as: is the suppression of the innate immune system mediated at local (upper respiratory tract) or systemic level?
I apologise for asking but there's just so little research being done in this field (or, at least, being published).
Are there any current papers showing strong evidence of ADE in datasets and/or metabolic pathways touched upon in this discussion? I need a citation for a Twitter debate in which I'm engaged. In mid-2020 I foresaw vaccine-enhanced disease as likely following mRNA vax, but now we need to be able to point to studies and mechanisms as we see evidence in case numbers and outcomes.
I would like to thank you for all your hard work and perseverance throughout these past few years. We have all learned so much through your wonderful (&thorough) presentations + publications. Your courageous voice has meant so much and has been a lifeline to so many. For this I believe you will always be remembered.
I understand this is a difficult time for humanity (on so many levels) and I have a lot of pessimism personally, but having you here... something alike spotting an iridescent bird in the wilderness of insanity. Merci.
Please know we think of you and your family and wish you all the very best in health & happiness for the new year ahead. You are very dear to us.
Geert. This is very odd. New flu epidemic in Rio de Janeiro, its summer there. The variant is provisionally named H3N2 Darwin, because it was first reported in the city of Darwin, Australia.
Here in Australia we have NOT had a flu season for 2 years.
no more vaxxines for me. I received the pfizer back in the Spring, and now I am done. I am doing everything in my power to reverse the effects of the vaxx and make myself strong.
Thank you Doctor so much, thank you dearly for your information, and easy explanation. These explanations are so good, I can share them with my non-medical friends and family.
Still as clear as mud to me. In Marek's disease it's literally the UNvaccinated chickens that don't stand a chance, and die, yet Geert has seemed to imply that you're better off unvaccinated. What does he mean when he says "ADE in vaccinees will provide the virus with exceptional virulence and make it resemble Marek in unvaccinated"
There seem to be two schools of thought in the anti-covid-vax scientists:
1. There is Geert Vanden Bossche who is warning us about vax-caused immune pressure and more infectious variants.
2. There are doctors for covid ethics with Michael Yeadon saying "don't worry about variants because T-cell immunity is broad, long-lived and protective". But most importantly, there is Sucharit Bhakdi saying that the first line of immune response is that of the mucosal immunity in the upper respiratory tract and there aren't vaccinal IgG Abs there - only secretory IgA (https://doctors4covidethics.org/immunology-101-why-intramuscular-covid-19-vaccination-must-fail/). If this is the innate immune response, then isn't that a conflict with the statement that vaccinal IgG will outcompete the innate Abs and prevent training of the innate immune system? I mean if vaccinal IgG do not play a role in the first innate immune response as they just aren't there.
Amazing read, thank you for sharing. I feel like I get smarter every time I read this stack.
(Does anyone know specifically which other receptors it uses?)
Thank you Geert. Your words are always appreciated.....though they really 'hurt' my little grey cells.! :)
I just also wanted to say, after 40 years of having a chronic cough, I have found that taking a small teaspoon of Bi-carb of soda in a cup of warm water of great benefit. It is an old wive's tale...I know....with no scientific basis, but it sure does work at soothing a cough. PS. It won't fix covid, but if any of your readers have a little success with it, my grandmother would be pleased. :)
Geert do think mass vaccination of the children will finally push us over the edge ?
At this point most scientists are welded on to their position & after everything they have said there is no chance they will walk back on their claims.
Germany is looking at booster 4 already.
What you say seems to make the most sense in my mind & signs are pointing to you being correct but everything is still theory at this stage. Is there a certain country we should watch for the signals, like Israel who are ahead in terms of vaccination timeline ?
Geert -- a quick question:
Do you have information on the types of antibodies that exert the suppression of the innate antibodies that impact on protection from infection (ie, via competitive binding)? Usually these might be considered to be IgG but given the location of infection in the upper respiratory tract is it more likely that they're IgA? If they are, what is the impact of the rapid IgA antibody waning seen with the coronavirus vaccines on the risks inherent with innate immune suppression? I suppose the question might be phrased as: is the suppression of the innate immune system mediated at local (upper respiratory tract) or systemic level?
I apologise for asking but there's just so little research being done in this field (or, at least, being published).
Sorry, but does anybody know which John is this? John Ioannidis?
Are there any current papers showing strong evidence of ADE in datasets and/or metabolic pathways touched upon in this discussion? I need a citation for a Twitter debate in which I'm engaged. In mid-2020 I foresaw vaccine-enhanced disease as likely following mRNA vax, but now we need to be able to point to studies and mechanisms as we see evidence in case numbers and outcomes.
Dear Geert,
I would like to thank you for all your hard work and perseverance throughout these past few years. We have all learned so much through your wonderful (&thorough) presentations + publications. Your courageous voice has meant so much and has been a lifeline to so many. For this I believe you will always be remembered.
I understand this is a difficult time for humanity (on so many levels) and I have a lot of pessimism personally, but having you here... something alike spotting an iridescent bird in the wilderness of insanity. Merci.
Please know we think of you and your family and wish you all the very best in health & happiness for the new year ahead. You are very dear to us.
Stay strong xx
Just curious, who is "John"?
Geert. This is very odd. New flu epidemic in Rio de Janeiro, its summer there. The variant is provisionally named H3N2 Darwin, because it was first reported in the city of Darwin, Australia.
Here in Australia we have NOT had a flu season for 2 years.
The H3N2 influenza virus has left several states ( Brazil) on alert because of the increase in the number of cases and deaths caused by the disease in December. In Rio de Janeiro, there are 5 deaths and more than 20,000 confirmed cases.... thoughts ?https://www.poder360.com.br/brasil/novo-surto-de-gripe-se-espalha-pelo-brasil-e-estados-ja-registram-mortes/
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