I consider you to be a hero of mine. That said, I will never willingly get another injection of any kind at any time and will spend the rest of my life discouraging all those I come in contact with from getting injections as well. Keep doing what you feel you need to do.
Hey Mark. Long time since hearing from you. I so agree with you. I am not into vaccines. I think people should stand in awe of their immune systems and make ever effort to live a healthy life to support them.
Agreed. I opt not to mess with my natural processes any more than I have already. I was vax injured as a kid and my life was destroyed by fluoroquinolone antibiotics. I have been gaslit by doctors for decades. My health is not good. Dealing with abdominal aortic ectasia lately, with iliac arterial expansion as well, blocking my intestines. I write and comment when I can.
Wow. I did not know that you had all those issues. I was very fortunate in that my father, who was born in 1916, was very much into healthy living and against antibiotics and drugs. I have to give him credit for my beliefs. I really hope you are able to hang in there and live a productive life.
Thanks. I went from extreme snowboarder to horribly disabled in a matter of weeks with tendon ruptures, blood clots, torn muscles, hernia, collapsed lung, kidney and liver damage and a hundred other issues. You must be about my dad's age. He reacted to the booster then did Death with Dignity 6 weeks ago. He would have been 86 a few days ago.
Here's a news segment I was in umpteen years ago. Vanessa's Law became the blueprint for BIG PHARMA to circumvent laws to hold them accountable all over the globe. It's also the law that is being weaponized against supplements.
I just watched the youtube link on big pharma you attached. It was very powerful and I wish everyone would take the 13 minutes to watch it. I also wish they would go further and stop taking big pharma's drugs altogether.
So sad to hear about your father and his reaction to the booster.
Ugh. I got permanent vertigo from a single dose of Levofloxacin 2 years ago. Luckily, the initially extremely intense vertigo faded to a mild vertigo in a few days, so I remain functional, though noticeably less coordinated. Evil, evil drug. Oh, to go back in time...
Long article by Radagast looking at the rise of respiratory infections across Europe and Australia. Puts forward an argument that repeated respiratory infections & pneumonias are evidence of immune system failure begining in the jabbed.
'Because people’s immune systems have spent the past three years, devoting more and more of their limited capacity to this adaptive immune response of antibodies and T cells, proliferating these cells at the cost of the innate immune system’s ability to do its job, now treating this Spike protein as if it were a kind of strange new bee venom or pollen that is continually showing up in our lungs somehow, the loss of these immunogenic regions of the N-Terminal Domain would suddenly leave most people in highly vaccinated Western countries with no protection.'
Yes, but loss of the N-Terminal Domain destabilizes the spike protein and makes the virus less effective at infecting cells. Supposedly, this is why the Ba 2.87 variant isn't spreading widely. Could this then be how we avoid doom? The virus reverts back to Sars1 and then whimpers out?
Wait! A destabilize spike protein makes the virus less fit, so there is little selection pressure for it to revert back to Sars1. But, Rintrah also wrote of this in his previous article....
"This now seems to be causing very strong pressure, to figure out how to avoid those antibodies, allowing versions of the virus to emerge with a destabilized deformed Spike protein, that are worse at spreading themselves, but make up for it by managing to evade these antibodies.
It could be these versions spread locally between people, as now seems to be happening in South Africa. *But it could also be that people now end up with persistent infections, that eventually develop these NTD deletions on their own*. This would mean that people are infected for weeks, but then their infection suddenly takes a turn for the worse.
SARS-1 was also bad at spreading itself, but its N-Terminal Domain was shorter, these regions where people’s antibodies now bind were presumably less immunogenic than they are in SARS-2. The price SARS2 pays for its more stable Spike protein that allows high infectivity and rapid spread, would seem to be greater immunogenicity in the N-Terminal Domain."
I am pointing to where he mentioned persistent infections in an individual evolving to loss of the N-Terminal domain. Think of it as vaccinees facing JN1 then Ba 2.87 hits.
"I am pointing to where he mentioned persistent infections in an individual evolving to loss of the N-Terminal domain. Think of it as vaccinees facing JN1 then Ba 2.87 hits."
On this point, did Marc Johnson find another Ba.2.87esque, but in NJ?
I used to listen to virologist Henry Niman of Recombinomics.co and Recombinomics.com. His contention, as best I understood it in the mid-2000s, was that the influenza virus primarily mutates through homologous recombination, as opposed to reassortment. I'm not sure where that has gone, but he was also involved with the 2004 SARS outbreak and when the pandemic hit in 2020 he gave almost daily interviews. He thought at that time that SARS-2 was deadlier than SARS-1 because it contains a "polybasic cleavage site" which he said is the primary difference between hi-path avian flu and low-path avian flu, and that the supposed 10% case fatality rate of SARS-1 only applied to people who actually had *severe* acute respiratory syndrome and not to people who simply tested positive for the virus or only manifested mild disease (I couldn't find any figures on the WHO website denoting the difference) and that 10% CFR should be compared to the approximate 13-15% CFR of people who were being placed in ICUs at that time with SARS-2.
In the spring of 2020 he also talked a lot about the "Italian strain" with the D614G mutation which I believe made the virus considerably more infectious and subsequently became dominant worldwide, after which they started naming the variants - Alpha, Beta, etc. - which evolved out of that strain. That would seem to contradict what Dr. VB says about a pandemic virus not changing all that much in a natural pandemic, but perhaps the mutation evolved as a result of immune pressure put on it by the lockdowns and other interventions at that time.
Unfortunately Dr. Niman, who I considered in the 2000s to be something of a maverick scientist who was often critical of the WHO and CDC, became a Trump hater and opponent of hydroxychloroquine, then the Great Barrington Declaration, and when I sent him a link to Dr. VB's paper in 2021 he wouldn't consider it, seeing any talk of herd immunity as a foolish scheme to let the virus rip through the population. I'm not exactly sure where he stands today.
"That would seem to contradict what Dr. VB says about a pandemic virus not changing all that much in a natural pandemic, but perhaps the mutation evolved as a result of immune pressure put on it by the lockdowns and other interventions at that time."
In his latest 1/26 interview with Dr. Brian Hooker at https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/shows/good-morning-chd/mass-vaccination--viral-mutation/ Dr. VB said that a pandemic virus doesn't change all that much in a natural pandemic, before herd immunity is reached, so I'm speculating that the somewhat dramatic D614G mutation which appeared in Northern Italy in the Spring of 2020 and became dominant worldwide was the result of immune pressure placed on the virus by the lockdowns, probably in China. I believe that is consistent with things Dr. VB has said.
I read Geert differently. I believe he has always said the virus is constantly mutating, but in a natural pandemic without mass vaccination none of these variants tend to gain a competitive edge and they just wither away as herd immunity sets in. Mass vaccination during a pandemic, however, will lead to the selection of variants with competitive advantages and appearing as dramatic divergences.
I agree but it was in 2020, well before the vaccination campaign began, that the D614G mutation made the virus considerably more infectious, as a result of which the strain became dominant worldwide. And I believe Dr. VB has said that infection-control measures such as lockdowns also place immune selection pressure on the virus, which explains the evolution without contradicting his statement that in a "natural" pandemic the predominant strain of a virus doesn't change all that much.
We need a global go fund me/kickstarter campaign that directs all monies collected to restart this research. Or some wealthy donor that wants to fund this effort (not for a tax write-off, for obscene profit or notoriety) but for true benevolence of humanity.
If successful, this will cause a major paradigm shift and turn the vaccine/pharma industry upside down.
We’ll have to hire additional security for Geert too.
I like the fund raising idea but not the moralism. There's nothing wrong with wanting to make a lot of money (and there's nothing wrong with society having a proportional asset tax so everyone can be guaranteed access to necessities).
Been following you since the start of this covid fiasco and obviously declined the "vaccines" (And masks, tests etc. You have been an amazing voice of reason and honestly in a sea of lies and BS.
But after the last 4 years seeing how governments, pharma, medicine and the regulators are all corrupt to the core, there is ZERO chance of me ever taking another vaccine again in my life, no matter what it is, does or the risk of not taking one. I am out, all trust irreversibly gone.
Congratulations Geert - this is the most positive use of your immense intellect and fortitude.
In the words of Buckminster Fuller- build it and they will come.
Keep talking and educating about this fantastic technology and trust that it will reach the right ears.
Perhaps a conversation with Tess Lawrie at the World Council for Health-
I hope the comments bring other fruitful deasand connections.
After looking deeply at the darkness - there is only one solution - turn to the light and build the new - battleing the old is a huge drain - it will destroy itself espcially if we dont feed it !
Truth goes through three stages.first, it is ridiculed ( you Have Certainly Been there Dr Bossche sadly v😓)Second, it is vehemently denied. Third, it is accepted as self-evident.We’re now between stage two and stage three Dr Bossche .
Nope. It looks like Geert is working on innate immune system (natural killer cells), whereas Dalgleish is combining a bunch of approaches starting with heat-killed mycobacterium most likely to stimulate adaptive immune system (not sure about this later part).
We definitely need a way forward Geert, the writing is on the wall.
The US is likely to be the best place to crowd fund. I hope you have enough contacts there & across the West to get it done. Don’t be discouraged, if the product is good people will get on board.
Thank you for your bravery and now focusing on solutions. With the rise in cancer, what are your thoughts on using aspirin as a therapeutic- some studies have shown that it promotes DNA repair. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-023-00783-6
If I ever win the lottery, I would fund you 100%
Me too 👍👍
I consider you to be a hero of mine. That said, I will never willingly get another injection of any kind at any time and will spend the rest of my life discouraging all those I come in contact with from getting injections as well. Keep doing what you feel you need to do.
Hey Mark. Long time since hearing from you. I so agree with you. I am not into vaccines. I think people should stand in awe of their immune systems and make ever effort to live a healthy life to support them.
Agreed. I opt not to mess with my natural processes any more than I have already. I was vax injured as a kid and my life was destroyed by fluoroquinolone antibiotics. I have been gaslit by doctors for decades. My health is not good. Dealing with abdominal aortic ectasia lately, with iliac arterial expansion as well, blocking my intestines. I write and comment when I can.
Wow. I did not know that you had all those issues. I was very fortunate in that my father, who was born in 1916, was very much into healthy living and against antibiotics and drugs. I have to give him credit for my beliefs. I really hope you are able to hang in there and live a productive life.
Thanks. I went from extreme snowboarder to horribly disabled in a matter of weeks with tendon ruptures, blood clots, torn muscles, hernia, collapsed lung, kidney and liver damage and a hundred other issues. You must be about my dad's age. He reacted to the booster then did Death with Dignity 6 weeks ago. He would have been 86 a few days ago.
Here's a news segment I was in umpteen years ago. Vanessa's Law became the blueprint for BIG PHARMA to circumvent laws to hold them accountable all over the globe. It's also the law that is being weaponized against supplements.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scyd59nUG7s
I just watched the youtube link on big pharma you attached. It was very powerful and I wish everyone would take the 13 minutes to watch it. I also wish they would go further and stop taking big pharma's drugs altogether.
So sad to hear about your father and his reaction to the booster.
I'll be 75 in a couple of months.
Ugh. I got permanent vertigo from a single dose of Levofloxacin 2 years ago. Luckily, the initially extremely intense vertigo faded to a mild vertigo in a few days, so I remain functional, though noticeably less coordinated. Evil, evil drug. Oh, to go back in time...
Long article by Radagast looking at the rise of respiratory infections across Europe and Australia. Puts forward an argument that repeated respiratory infections & pneumonias are evidence of immune system failure begining in the jabbed.
'Because people’s immune systems have spent the past three years, devoting more and more of their limited capacity to this adaptive immune response of antibodies and T cells, proliferating these cells at the cost of the innate immune system’s ability to do its job, now treating this Spike protein as if it were a kind of strange new bee venom or pollen that is continually showing up in our lungs somehow, the loss of these immunogenic regions of the N-Terminal Domain would suddenly leave most people in highly vaccinated Western countries with no protection.'
https://www.rintrah.nl/why-people-are-now-constantly-sick-all-the-time/
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Yes, but loss of the N-Terminal Domain destabilizes the spike protein and makes the virus less effective at infecting cells. Supposedly, this is why the Ba 2.87 variant isn't spreading widely. Could this then be how we avoid doom? The virus reverts back to Sars1 and then whimpers out?
Wait! A destabilize spike protein makes the virus less fit, so there is little selection pressure for it to revert back to Sars1. But, Rintrah also wrote of this in his previous article....
"This now seems to be causing very strong pressure, to figure out how to avoid those antibodies, allowing versions of the virus to emerge with a destabilized deformed Spike protein, that are worse at spreading themselves, but make up for it by managing to evade these antibodies.
It could be these versions spread locally between people, as now seems to be happening in South Africa. *But it could also be that people now end up with persistent infections, that eventually develop these NTD deletions on their own*. This would mean that people are infected for weeks, but then their infection suddenly takes a turn for the worse.
SARS-1 was also bad at spreading itself, but its N-Terminal Domain was shorter, these regions where people’s antibodies now bind were presumably less immunogenic than they are in SARS-2. The price SARS2 pays for its more stable Spike protein that allows high infectivity and rapid spread, would seem to be greater immunogenicity in the N-Terminal Domain."
I am pointing to where he mentioned persistent infections in an individual evolving to loss of the N-Terminal domain. Think of it as vaccinees facing JN1 then Ba 2.87 hits.
https://www.rintrah.nl/sars-versions-begin-to-emerge-that-overcome-the-most-important-virulence-reducing-antibodies/
"I am pointing to where he mentioned persistent infections in an individual evolving to loss of the N-Terminal domain. Think of it as vaccinees facing JN1 then Ba 2.87 hits."
On this point, did Marc Johnson find another Ba.2.87esque, but in NJ?
https://twitter.com/SolidEvidence
I used to listen to virologist Henry Niman of Recombinomics.co and Recombinomics.com. His contention, as best I understood it in the mid-2000s, was that the influenza virus primarily mutates through homologous recombination, as opposed to reassortment. I'm not sure where that has gone, but he was also involved with the 2004 SARS outbreak and when the pandemic hit in 2020 he gave almost daily interviews. He thought at that time that SARS-2 was deadlier than SARS-1 because it contains a "polybasic cleavage site" which he said is the primary difference between hi-path avian flu and low-path avian flu, and that the supposed 10% case fatality rate of SARS-1 only applied to people who actually had *severe* acute respiratory syndrome and not to people who simply tested positive for the virus or only manifested mild disease (I couldn't find any figures on the WHO website denoting the difference) and that 10% CFR should be compared to the approximate 13-15% CFR of people who were being placed in ICUs at that time with SARS-2.
In the spring of 2020 he also talked a lot about the "Italian strain" with the D614G mutation which I believe made the virus considerably more infectious and subsequently became dominant worldwide, after which they started naming the variants - Alpha, Beta, etc. - which evolved out of that strain. That would seem to contradict what Dr. VB says about a pandemic virus not changing all that much in a natural pandemic, but perhaps the mutation evolved as a result of immune pressure put on it by the lockdowns and other interventions at that time.
Unfortunately Dr. Niman, who I considered in the 2000s to be something of a maverick scientist who was often critical of the WHO and CDC, became a Trump hater and opponent of hydroxychloroquine, then the Great Barrington Declaration, and when I sent him a link to Dr. VB's paper in 2021 he wouldn't consider it, seeing any talk of herd immunity as a foolish scheme to let the virus rip through the population. I'm not exactly sure where he stands today.
"That would seem to contradict what Dr. VB says about a pandemic virus not changing all that much in a natural pandemic, but perhaps the mutation evolved as a result of immune pressure put on it by the lockdowns and other interventions at that time."
Hugh?
In his latest 1/26 interview with Dr. Brian Hooker at https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/shows/good-morning-chd/mass-vaccination--viral-mutation/ Dr. VB said that a pandemic virus doesn't change all that much in a natural pandemic, before herd immunity is reached, so I'm speculating that the somewhat dramatic D614G mutation which appeared in Northern Italy in the Spring of 2020 and became dominant worldwide was the result of immune pressure placed on the virus by the lockdowns, probably in China. I believe that is consistent with things Dr. VB has said.
I read Geert differently. I believe he has always said the virus is constantly mutating, but in a natural pandemic without mass vaccination none of these variants tend to gain a competitive edge and they just wither away as herd immunity sets in. Mass vaccination during a pandemic, however, will lead to the selection of variants with competitive advantages and appearing as dramatic divergences.
I agree but it was in 2020, well before the vaccination campaign began, that the D614G mutation made the virus considerably more infectious, as a result of which the strain became dominant worldwide. And I believe Dr. VB has said that infection-control measures such as lockdowns also place immune selection pressure on the virus, which explains the evolution without contradicting his statement that in a "natural" pandemic the predominant strain of a virus doesn't change all that much.
Agree JC
We need a global go fund me/kickstarter campaign that directs all monies collected to restart this research. Or some wealthy donor that wants to fund this effort (not for a tax write-off, for obscene profit or notoriety) but for true benevolence of humanity.
If successful, this will cause a major paradigm shift and turn the vaccine/pharma industry upside down.
We’ll have to hire additional security for Geert too.
I like the fund raising idea but not the moralism. There's nothing wrong with wanting to make a lot of money (and there's nothing wrong with society having a proportional asset tax so everyone can be guaranteed access to necessities).
You're basically doing cellular immune therapy with in vivo activation rather than ex vivo.
Do you plan to screen for those who received mRNA covid jabs and may have baseline immune suppression across the board?
You might want to think about an ex vivo universal allogeneic solution using screened healthy donors.
All these cell based immune therapies are in for a nasty surprise I fear as the jab catastrophe becomes more prevalent.
👍🏼 G H
Been following you since the start of this covid fiasco and obviously declined the "vaccines" (And masks, tests etc. You have been an amazing voice of reason and honestly in a sea of lies and BS.
But after the last 4 years seeing how governments, pharma, medicine and the regulators are all corrupt to the core, there is ZERO chance of me ever taking another vaccine again in my life, no matter what it is, does or the risk of not taking one. I am out, all trust irreversibly gone.
Congratulations Geert - this is the most positive use of your immense intellect and fortitude.
In the words of Buckminster Fuller- build it and they will come.
Keep talking and educating about this fantastic technology and trust that it will reach the right ears.
Perhaps a conversation with Tess Lawrie at the World Council for Health-
I hope the comments bring other fruitful deasand connections.
After looking deeply at the darkness - there is only one solution - turn to the light and build the new - battleing the old is a huge drain - it will destroy itself espcially if we dont feed it !
Lost me totally @ "vaccines". We are NOT born requiring, who knows what, into our bodies, wakeup.
So true Roc. Well said. I like Geert, but he still does not see it.
Thank you, Sir, for not only educating us but now working on a solution. That is very comforting to me.
Truth goes through three stages.first, it is ridiculed ( you Have Certainly Been there Dr Bossche sadly v😓)Second, it is vehemently denied. Third, it is accepted as self-evident.We’re now between stage two and stage three Dr Bossche .
Thanks once again for your insights
Soooo much respect for you Sir. Thank you for all that you have done, all that you are doing now and all that you will be doing in the future.
Apart of possible public fund raising, maybe a man like Elon Musk, once well informed, is interested in the project of Dr Geert?
Geert, are there any parallels between your approach and the IMM-101 approach of Dr. Angus Dalgleish?
https://www.spandidos-publications.com/10.3892/ol.2022.13367?text=fulltext
Nope. It looks like Geert is working on innate immune system (natural killer cells), whereas Dalgleish is combining a bunch of approaches starting with heat-killed mycobacterium most likely to stimulate adaptive immune system (not sure about this later part).
We definitely need a way forward Geert, the writing is on the wall.
The US is likely to be the best place to crowd fund. I hope you have enough contacts there & across the West to get it done. Don’t be discouraged, if the product is good people will get on board.
"How long it will take for that unfortunate mutation to be selected is difficult to predict."
But isn't it imminent?
Thank you for your bravery and now focusing on solutions. With the rise in cancer, what are your thoughts on using aspirin as a therapeutic- some studies have shown that it promotes DNA repair. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-023-00783-6