I recently came across yet another article suggesting that cross-reactive memory T cells serve a critical role in protecting COVID-19 contacts against infection and thereby abrogate subsequent induction of de novo SARS-CoV-2-specific antibody responses:
Dr. Vanden Bossche. Thank you for the detailed explanation. You are doing real science. The academic caliber of your work stands in stark contrast to the idiocy of public health officials.
I remember that when this T-cell protection was suggested by Dr. Scott Atlas when he was included in the panel of advisors in the US Trump Administration, Dr. Fauci called it "misinformation".
To me this aggressive push by the mainstream to adopt this "T-cell protects" view is a sign that they are afraid that people who are fully vaccinated and boosted and topped up with fourth vaccine might start worrying why they are getting infected and dying.
It's a plot to get people to accept vaccine danger when it's involved in spreading virus in society.
Wish I had saved it at the time, I recall reading a publication TWO YEARS AGO (might have been from Nature) whereas Tal Zaks (Moderna ) mentioned pivoting to “T-Cell” target for “vaccine”. After reading what Geert has been explaining, I’m going to try to find that article, it’s as if Tal Zaks already had knowledge that the vax that they would release upon the world was going to fail. I’m wondering if the MERS trials that were in later stages in South Korea in 2017 have anything about this topic ???
Sorry, I find this difficult to understand. Could you perhaps do a longer explanation including diagrams to show what you consider ‘ usual’ immunology, what the authors are suggesting and your alternate explanation? Thanks
I would love for Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche to evaluate a study that was sent in an email to me. The summary is this:
"Summary
SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines induce robust anti-spike (S) antibody and CD4+ T cell responses. It is not yet clear whether vaccine-induced follicular helper CD4+ T (TFH) cell responses contribute to this outstanding immunogenicity. Using fine-needle aspiration of draining axillary lymph nodes from individuals who received the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine, we evaluated the T cell receptor sequences and phenotype of lymph node TFH. Mining of the responding TFH T cell receptor repertoire revealed a strikingly immunodominant HLA-DPB1∗04-restricted response to S167–180 in individuals with this allele, which is among the most common HLA alleles in humans. Paired blood and lymph node specimens show that while circulating S-specific TFH cells peak one week after the second immunization, S-specific TFH persist at nearly constant frequencies for at least six months. Collectively, our results underscore the key role that robust TFH cell responses play in establishing long-term immunity by this efficacious human vaccine."
Could somebody give us non-jargon summary of this... I spent time with a web dictionary looking up abrogate, de novo, etc - think I got those things, but there's a whole bunch of very technical descriptions specific to this field that I just am not sure I've got the right understanding of.
thanks in advance for anybody willing to help those of use who want to understand this but are lacking the formal education in this area.
Dr. Vanden Bossche. Thank you for the detailed explanation. You are doing real science. The academic caliber of your work stands in stark contrast to the idiocy of public health officials.
I remember that when this T-cell protection was suggested by Dr. Scott Atlas when he was included in the panel of advisors in the US Trump Administration, Dr. Fauci called it "misinformation".
To me this aggressive push by the mainstream to adopt this "T-cell protects" view is a sign that they are afraid that people who are fully vaccinated and boosted and topped up with fourth vaccine might start worrying why they are getting infected and dying.
It's a plot to get people to accept vaccine danger when it's involved in spreading virus in society.
Wish I had saved it at the time, I recall reading a publication TWO YEARS AGO (might have been from Nature) whereas Tal Zaks (Moderna ) mentioned pivoting to “T-Cell” target for “vaccine”. After reading what Geert has been explaining, I’m going to try to find that article, it’s as if Tal Zaks already had knowledge that the vax that they would release upon the world was going to fail. I’m wondering if the MERS trials that were in later stages in South Korea in 2017 have anything about this topic ???
Vaccine failure in Scotland
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/complete-vaccine-failure-in-scotland
Down the Covid Rabbit Hole - Part 2
Vaccine derived viruses and what that means for SARS-CoV-2
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/down-the-covid-rabbit-hole-part-2
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How did Moderna's 2015 patented code end up in SARS-CoV-2 and what were they developing in 2017?
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/ctcctcggcgggcacgtag
This was excellent. I think. 😳
Did the memory T cells do their role in the original Wuhan variant ? I see people getting infected twice, so either the T memory goes on holiday or ?
Sorry, I find this difficult to understand. Could you perhaps do a longer explanation including diagrams to show what you consider ‘ usual’ immunology, what the authors are suggesting and your alternate explanation? Thanks
I would love for Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche to evaluate a study that was sent in an email to me. The summary is this:
"Summary
SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines induce robust anti-spike (S) antibody and CD4+ T cell responses. It is not yet clear whether vaccine-induced follicular helper CD4+ T (TFH) cell responses contribute to this outstanding immunogenicity. Using fine-needle aspiration of draining axillary lymph nodes from individuals who received the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine, we evaluated the T cell receptor sequences and phenotype of lymph node TFH. Mining of the responding TFH T cell receptor repertoire revealed a strikingly immunodominant HLA-DPB1∗04-restricted response to S167–180 in individuals with this allele, which is among the most common HLA alleles in humans. Paired blood and lymph node specimens show that while circulating S-specific TFH cells peak one week after the second immunization, S-specific TFH persist at nearly constant frequencies for at least six months. Collectively, our results underscore the key role that robust TFH cell responses play in establishing long-term immunity by this efficacious human vaccine."
Link to study: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867421014896
Came out today 2/17/2022. Volume 185, Issue 4, 17 February 2022, Pages 603-613.e15
Could somebody give us non-jargon summary of this... I spent time with a web dictionary looking up abrogate, de novo, etc - think I got those things, but there's a whole bunch of very technical descriptions specific to this field that I just am not sure I've got the right understanding of.
thanks in advance for anybody willing to help those of use who want to understand this but are lacking the formal education in this area.
Suspected Swiss Side Effects to the MRNA Vaccines
* Rare side effects to the extremely safe MRNA Vaccines
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/suspected-swiss-side-effects-to-the
How does this contrast with the assertion that T-cell and B-cell memory after natural infection abrogate de novo symptomatic disease?